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Message 1381 of 5179 (688435)
01-22-2013 2:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1380 by Faith
01-22-2013 1:36 PM


Re: The Un-American Mind
Faith writes:
What I'm saying is that if that happens it would be a SIGN that God has abandoned the nation.
Are you saying that god is watching our political fights and if the second amendment is changed he will abandon us?
I don't have a clear idea of what is going to happen.
When you have a clear idea, please let us know.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 1498 of 5179 (688816)
01-25-2013 5:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1497 by AZPaul3
01-25-2013 4:27 PM


Re: 52 states?????????
Confusion and Dumbdumb....states of mind I guess.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 1628 of 5179 (690005)
02-07-2013 1:02 PM
Reply to: Message 1627 by ICANT
02-07-2013 12:33 PM


Re: Some cases where guns would have helped and where they did help
ICANT writes:
It has been said that 48% of the firearms the gangs in Chicago obtains comes from barter for drugs.
What has been said about where the other 52% come from?
Edit:
It has been said
By who?
Edited by Tanypteryx, : No reason given.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 1647 of 5179 (690064)
02-08-2013 11:37 AM


The Weapon Shops of Isher
Has anyone read The Weapon Shops of Isher and The Weapon Makers by A.E. van Vogt?
Their super-smart weapons technology stops their weapons from firing in anger or madness. They can only be used for self defense, hunting, target practice, etc.
The weapon shops themselves stand as an obstacle to the tyranny of an oppressive government.
A good science-fiction read from the '50s and 60's, but maybe not so impossible with the technology today. The new camera I just bought my wife recognizes when it is pointed at people and focuses on their face.
Of course, this does not resolve the issue of millions of guns in the hands criminals, the mentally ill and law-abiding citizens

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 2989 of 5179 (745176)
12-19-2014 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 2985 by Faith
12-19-2014 3:26 PM


Re: Black Robed Regiment: the preachers of the Revolutionary War
Faith writes:
The point was only and entirely to show that CHRISTIANS SUPPORTED THE REVOLUTIONAR WAR which certainly implies supporting the possession of guns.
Of course, they were not true Christians. Jesus never supported war or killing. This is just another example of Fox Fundamentalism.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 2990 of 5179 (745177)
12-19-2014 3:41 PM
Reply to: Message 2984 by Faith
12-19-2014 3:16 PM


Re: self defence
Faith writes:
There are areas where there is a high incidence of gun ownership and very low to zero crimes or gun deaths.
Let's see your evidence to support that.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 2999 of 5179 (745186)
12-19-2014 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 2996 by Faith
12-19-2014 4:00 PM


Re: guns / crime
Faith writes:
I wanted to find the statistic on American areas of high gun ownership with low crime. I'll keep looking.
That is what I thought you were talking about....the United States. In the U.S. we have both legal and illegal gun ownership that must be included in rate of gun ownership compared to gun crime rate.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 3617 of 5179 (760405)
06-21-2015 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 3612 by anglagard
06-21-2015 1:46 PM


Re: 9 dead in SC
Lebanon and Sweet Home, Oregon are sure looking like a good place to relocate for an early retirement.
I live abot 10 miles from Lebanon and 25 from Sweet Home. They are both pretty redneck. Lots of gun nuts and general dimwits, and also here in Albany. Corvallis and Eugene/Springfield are much more progressive, but have their share of wackjobs too.
I grew up in Bend and when I moved to Albany years ago I was amazed at the clear cultural differences. I worked in the analytical lab of a rare metal refinery and was shocked at the level of racial bigotry that was expressed there. There were no blacks working there then and the things I heard people say would happen if any came to work there shocked me. When a few African-Americans were eventually integrated into the workforce there were no problems and they were treated like everyone else.
In general Oregon is liberal, but a lot of Oregonians are in love with their guns.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 3622 of 5179 (760415)
06-21-2015 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 3611 by Faith
06-21-2015 1:39 PM


Re: 9 dead in SC
Faith writes:
Isn't it obvious that if just one person in the Bible Study had a gun many would not have died?
Isn't it obvious that if your god really existed she would stop this shit from happening (and smite you on the back of the head for spouting such nonsense)?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 3669 of 5179 (760513)
06-22-2015 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 3668 by marc9000
06-22-2015 5:27 PM


Re: 9 dead in SC
I was referring to people who receive handouts from a money borrowing government. I would consider those who depend on government for basic necessities, food and shelter, etc. like welfare, social security etc.
You may consider people who depend on social security as some kind of parasites, but I worked and paid income taxes and social security taxes for 50 fucking years with the expectation that I would get something for my money.
Where as your asshole-ultra-wealthy friends never worked a fucking day in their lives and yet they game the system so they pay little or no taxes and the companies they own get corporate welfare and keep all the money they make in off shore accounts so they can thumb their noses at the USA and all of us who have supported them all their lives.
You hateful christians don't deserve to live in the USA.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 4134 of 5179 (769423)
09-20-2015 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 4133 by Percy
09-20-2015 6:43 PM


Re: Knowing about things.
I read or heard someone describe the case as a briefcase, but when you look at it compared to the size of the electrical plug it seems to be clearly too small to be called a briefcase.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Tanypteryx
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Message 4136 of 5179 (769428)
09-20-2015 7:14 PM
Reply to: Message 4135 by Asgara
09-20-2015 7:02 PM


Re: Knowing about things.
Looks to me like a fancy pencil case
Yep, and it looks used.
I hope when he's an old guy that his memories of this incident are not all negative. It will be interesting to see if it turns out to be a defining moment in his life.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 4203 of 5179 (770247)
10-02-2015 9:54 AM
Reply to: Message 4199 by Faith
10-02-2015 9:25 AM


Re: Oregon college shooter targeted Christians
A politician's website said it was a gun-free zone. What's your evidence that it's not?
I watched an interview (on local news) yesterday evening with a student who was carrying, but who could not get into the room. They interviewed several students who were veterans and who helped get others to safety.
I did not see any stories or interviews with survivors that were in the classroom with the shooter.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 4235 of 5179 (770306)
10-03-2015 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 4234 by Faith
10-03-2015 11:37 AM


Re: a social problem with a social solution
What that is I'm not exactly sure but Christians should be praying our hearts out for it.
Well, that should help. It has always worked in the past, right?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Tanypteryx
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Message 4238 of 5179 (770309)
10-03-2015 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 4236 by Faith
10-03-2015 12:39 PM


Re: a social problem with a social solution
Praying in God's will ALWAYS works. The problem is we don't really do it, don't know how to do it, don't do it with the right aims, don't do it with clean hands as it were and so on.
Well, in this case, there should be no problem. If God didn't want us shooting each other, he would not have invented gunpowder or started the NRA or inspired the 2nd amendment and so forth.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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