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Hi Percy, Nuff said?Enjoy.

Why not try a polynomial or exponential curve to see if you get a better fit to the data?Enjoy

... no matter how you cut the mustard.Enjoy

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A student was shot and wounded at a rural San Joaquin Valley high school Thursday and another student was taken into custody, officials said.

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The shooting occurred about 9 a.m. at Taft Union High School, a community of fewer than 10,000 people amid oil and natural gas production fields about 120 miles northwest of Los Angeles.

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The student who was shot was flown to a hospital in Bakersfield, said Ray Pruitt, spokesman for the Kern County Sheriff's Department. There was no immediate word on the victim's condition.

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Pruitt said the suspect is a student, and a shotgun was used in the attack.

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Kern County Fire Department Eric Coughran told CBS Bakersfield affiliate KBAK-TV that another person suffered some type of injuries in the incident but refused medical attention.

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The gun used was a shotgun, so the capacity to get off a lot of shots is less than other guns used in rampages ...... so regulations reducing the capacity of the guns that can be owned would reduce some of the numbers of people killed.Enjoy

How did armed guards help at Columbine? Virginia Tech? Fort Hood?How did armed guards help when Reagan was shot?Would you not agree that Reagan was surrounded by highly trained attentive secret service agents, people more highly trained and attentive than your (actually NRA's) proposed armed guards?Do you accept that their presence did nothing to prevent, stop or reduce the shooting that occurred?This is NOT a valid concept for protection, and it certainly is not the direction I would like to see schools go: I am in agreement with Straggler on this 100%.It's ridiculous. Give it up. Curiously, in my opinion, "good people" are people that do not own the kinds of weapons used in mass shootings and who would be supportive of a renewal of the ban on assault type weapons and on assault type ammo loading systems. Recent polls (ABC) show that the majority of Americans agree, and that even among gun owners there is more support for such a ban than there is against it.Tonto and the Lone Ranger aren't real, Faith.Enjoy.

How did Gandhi defeat England Faith? What weapon did he use? Is India free of English colonial control because of Gandhi or because of weapons?Was this same weapon used in Egypt to defeat Mubarek?Violence is not the answer to violence, it only perpetuates it.Enjoy

The British Empire, you know, one of those countries that tried to conquer the world .... and at one time controlled more of the world than Hitler? That one?British Empire - Wikipedia

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... At its height, it was the largest empire in history and, for over a century, was the foremost global power.[1] ...

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History is told by the winners.EnjoyEdited by RAZD, : ..Edited by RAZD, : ..Edited by RAZD, : ..

No Faith, what is nauseating is that you fail to understand that the English Empire was not all tea, crumpets and cucumber sandwiches, and that they had their ruthless oppression side (as has the US and other countries).The difference between their level of oppression and Nazi Germany does not account for why and how Gandhi prevailed. Oppression is oppression even if it isn't the worst oppression ever known, at the end of the day it is still oppression.Nor does the level of oppression imposed by Mubarek explain how he was overthrown.EnjoyEdited by RAZD, : day not dat

You have a rather naive and biased impression of how oppressive Germany was compared to other countries, imho. You certainly love to refer to them as if they are the ultimate evil.

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Godwin’s Law was formulated by Mike Godwin in the 1990s and states:

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

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Traditionally in many Internet discussion forums, it is the rule that once such a comparison is made, the discussion is effectively finished and whoever mentioned Hitler or the Nazis has automatically lost the debate, ...

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Perhaps you should find another icon of evil ... most other countries are not free of evil behavior ... Imperial England and the US included.The wholesale oppression and genocide of native americans by the US is just as bad, just as evil, just as driven by racist xenophobia, imho.The wholesale oppression and genocide of black americans by the racist southern US states is also just as bad, just as evil, just as driven by racist xenophobia, imho.Dr Martin Luther King II used the inspiration of Henry David Thoreau and Mahatma Gandhi in his non-violent movement for civil rights in the '60s -- and he succeeded in spite of being killed by a gun.Violence does not create peace, it creates oppression. If someone holds a gun to your head, does it really matter what government is behind the holder of that gun?Guns are not the answer.EnjoyEdited by RAZD, : gun to headEdited by RAZD, : added MLK just for tomorrow

In your opinion, totally unsubstantiated by any evidence, and rather impossible to do, seeing as Gandhi and similar movements occurred after WWII.Many people survived the Nazi death camps and other pogroms, so assuming a single individual would necessarily have been killed is hubris on your part. There were evil people in Nazi Germany but not all people in Nazi Germany were evil, as you seem to think. Wrong.What weapons were used to overthrow Mubarek?You're a big fan of using weapons to overthrow oppressive regimes, so you should know what weapons were used by having studied how Mubarek was overthrown.btw -- why is Muslim a factor? He was not overthrown because he was Muslim ... or are you being xenophobic and biased?Demographics of Egypt - Wikipedia

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Frankly I would think that a government in a country that is 90% Muslim would have a very high probability of being governed by Muslims. In fact I would be astonished if that were NOT the case. Being Muslim is not necessarily evil or a badge of evil.EnjoyEdited by RAZD, : muslim questionEdited by RAZD, : ..Edited by RAZD, : demographicsEdited by RAZD, : ..

Virtually ensures you will be met with violence. See middle east. Live by the sword, die by the sword.People generally find what they are seeking ... In your apparently biased and narrow-minded opinion, one that seems to refuse to consider alternatives to violence. It wasn't tried, so you don't know it wouldn't work.Because you don't know how and why it works.You fail to understand what happened in Egypt for the same reason.Mubarek was overthrown by peaceful protest, not by weapons.Enjoy

Ah, you've learned the words "straw man". What weapons defeated him, Faith. It's a simple question with a simple answer.Would you say that the government under Mubarek was more like your perception of the England of Gandhi's time or more like your perception of Nazi Germany?What type of government in the US do you expect to track you down to take away your guns -- one more like your perception of the England of Gandhi's time or one more like your perception Nazi Germany? ... about paranoid fantasies again.Muslims are people. I've known quite a few, and none of them were bloodthirsty terrorists, they were family people originally from Bosnia, and very happy to be in the US that helped them. They were here before the 9/11 tower attack was used to sell wholesale fear to gullible people and before the lies about who was involved in that attack were used to invade Iraq, before Muslims were vilified in propaganda programs (Faux Noise etc). They didn't change into monsters, Faith, they remained decent people.Yes there are fanatics in the Muslim world just as there are fanatics in the Christian world, the Hindu world, the Jewish world, etc.Being a fanatic is not limited to Islam. Being a Muslim is not limited to being a fanatic. They are not equivalent.Your close-minded bigotry (fanaticism?) is showing again. Curiously, I'm concerned that Israels continued terrorism of the arabs will keep making the middle east situation worse. All they do is make the situation worse and worse, as if they want continual war. Just like the drone terrorism being waged by the US in Pakistan.When you kill children you make enemies. Ah yes, the people rising up to throw off the dictators, including those propped up the the US, just like you envisage doing with your guns. People seeking basic human dignity and rights -- those people?People in countries that are trying to transition from brutal oppressive regimes in spite of fanatic factions that want to take over ... those people?... those muslim people seeking a more peaceful world with dignity and rights?... those muslim people seeking a freely elected democratic government?You should be celebrating them and supporting those people, not vilifying them with false views.Changing from a society that knows oppressive tyranny to one with free democracy is a difficult process, made harder in societies that have no real understanding of how free democracy works (which is why you can't impose it on people like schrubbia tried in Iraq and Afghanistan). It's a process that takes years and it takes education. How did he get there, Faith, how did he gain that stature? and yet he started out as a nameless individual, didn't he? Schindler and all the other decent Germans that helped to hide people (Anne Frank etc) from the Nazi's and get them out of the country. No screaming craziness -- facts. Yes, IF you opinion has any basis on facts you should be able to substantiate it with those facts. If all you have to substantiate your opinion is your beliefs and fantasies then it is rather difficult to show a rational evidence substantiated basis for them. In your opinion. Hyperbole is not evidence of anything more than what you believe. The argument from incredulity is a logical fallacy.Bottom line is that you don't know because it wasn't tried.Enjoy.

what??? all those armed good guys couldn't prevent, reduce or stop those shootings???horrorrs --- they need more guns!!!enjoy

One can also look at more recent history with Czechoslovakia in 1968 ...EnjoyEdited by RAZD, : No reason given.Edited by RAZD, : No reason given.

The Polish army had better arms that you can have in the US as a citizen. The invasion was over in about three weeks.Invasion of Poland - WikipediaEnjoy.