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RAZD Member (Idle past 1432 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
And then in my free time, I like to go down to the range and use my gun to punch holes in pieces of paper. Would it be the same with a cross-bow? Would it be the same burning holes with a laser rifle? Or do you need a visceral feeling of gun going off with odeur de gunsmoke? Would a cap pistol suffice? A cap-pistol-laser-rifle combo? How about the visuals compared to video games like Bond (where you can pretend to save the world)? How about playing paint-ball? I'm just curious what is the reasoning here. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1432 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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I never picked up a firearm any other time, but I really don't find it hard to imagine people doing target shooting for fun, and of course lots of people do that and never have loaded guns or ammo at home. Some people don't even bring their guns home. And I can see where gun clubs could serve that purpose, acting as an armory for the members, even for automatic weapons, and also where you would have to check your gun out to go hunting -- they could make sure you were proficient with the weapon, seemed mentally stable, issue gun and ammunition appropriate for hunting, and act as a repository if weapons in case of invasion or insurrection (under the local police-chief\sheriff command) and that this would fill the second amendment qualifications for the formation of a well regulated militia. What I don't like is vigilante "justice" (al la Zimmerman or people that shoot intruders). Enjoy.by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1432 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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yes
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1432 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
We have a generator - that's the extent of our preparation. Indeed. It is rather difficult to shoot a hurricane or a drought ... but food, water and energy will help. And if I were going to rate the likelihood of various disasters I would rate those way higher than some internal military action. See Tank Town - Rainwater Collection Since 1994! Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : ..by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1432 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
It's okay Percy, because she had a permit for a concealed weapon, that automatically makes it a good shoot. And because she was not shot by a bad actor with a gun, then she must have been the bad actor with the gun, and that justifies the shooting ... by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1432 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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from Juanita Jean's Photos on facebook
And people still have refrigerators ... ... and they still freely use their refrigerators in the same ways they used them before ... Funny how that happens. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1432 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
specially if it's 45 ...
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1432 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Is that a Darwin Award and an Honorable Mention?
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1432 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Can't be the Darwin Award really - I'm afraid the principal idiot's genes are still washing around in the global gene pool. That's why he gets the Honorable Mention ... the award goes to the guy stupid enough to be in the same room with him and a loaded gun. by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1432 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
50 caliber seems pretty arbitrary. Why not limit it to 22 caliber? What do YOU think is the limit of the type of "arms" a citizen is Constitutionally allowed to "keep and bear"? Arbitrary indeed when a musket has a large bore but the damage potential is close to a 22 and doesn't have an option for automatic/rapid fire. So one could set an arbitrary limit to the damage potential of a musket in the time it takes to reload a musket. by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1432 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
My opinion is that the metric for the limitation of civilian arms should be the police. The police are civilians too. Anything they are allowed to have, I should be allowed to have. And if you want to limit me from having it, then you should limit the police from having it as well. That should create a decent balance of interest. Curiously I can work with that. I would exclude certain special forces that would respond to drug war and SWAT teams, and I would like those to be restricted from general use. The average police officer has a handgun. There may be a shotgun in the trunk (ie not readily accessible). by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1432 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
In response to recent massacres I suggest that, rather than limit gun use any further, all teachers and school children should be required to attend school in full body armour. There has been a market response: bulletproof backpacks - Search Not sure which it protects more, the child or the peace of mind of the parent ... by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1432 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Well, in Canada it would have about as much market as giraffe shoes. Unless it were incorporated into a snowmobile suit, eh? by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1432 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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A felon is "a person convicted in a court of law of a felony crime" link. If you can become un-convicted, I suppose you would become an ex-felon. An ex-felon is generally regarded as someone who was convicted of a felony and who has paid the price (a fine or a specified time in jail, depending on the offense). The problem is that many states stigmatize ex-felons as likely to repeat and so it is hard to get a job and hard to make a go of a reformed life. Many states also take away voting rights for anyone ever convicted of a felony, and this isn't reinstated once they become ex-felons. This is another tool the south uses to keep blacks from voting, as even minor trumped up felony charges result in loss of voting rights. Welcome to the new\old Jim Crow Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1432 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
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That's what I'm saying: You never really become an "ex-felon". It never goes away. Many states also take away voting rights for anyone ever convicted of a felony, and this isn't reinstated once they become ex-felons. But not all states. Mostly red ones. Progressive states reinstate pre-felony rights once the "debt to society" had been paid. (personally I don't see how stealing a loaf of bread invalidates one from having a right to vote, but that is another issue). If your pre-felony rights are restored is that not becoming an real ex-con? Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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