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Isn't it pretty much the same whether we shoot at foreign nations trying to take American property militarily, or Americans prepare to shoot back at the growing barbarians within the gates?The adjective "poor" seems to mean the barbarians whom America pays $1 trillion dollars in what is now tribute, Welfare.
America pays these people who are holding the largest (and even most smaller inner cities) captive and off limits to Americans because of violence.Shall America now expand their aggression while the Law protects every million Tryvon Martins with the shield of poverty?Take the guns away from that half of society which still recognizes marriage and two parent families as the proper building blocks for good citizenship and the whole suburban community is wide open to home invasion.
Suburbia will be armed only with 911 and a suburban police force of ten men who did arrive fast enough for the Zimmerman case.And, the Black community is NOT just these criminals who expect poverty to excuse their actions when in reality, poverty is the consequence of Welfare.Ninety percent, 90%, of the murder victims are Black people killed by Black men.
Shoukdn't America fix this, not excuse it???Edited by kofh2u, : No reason given.

2XWhat Americans had better recognize is that all their cities are now actually and physically controlled and occupied by the same kind of Barbarians who brought down Rome once the free food and free arena games could no longer be distributed using other people's money.We are still considering the 12/21/12 mayan calendar prophecy as the Fiscal Cliff approaches and the possibility of a terrible economic crunch duplicates this Roman experience.America may well see the Million Man inner City masses explode into the unprepared suburbia which is weakly policed and totally vulnerable to the kinds of riots of the '60's that occurred in the urban areas.

... half witted...That is a pretty good suggestion.
We already know the the police have killed people in self defense.We need to add the citizens to that and get it into the mix of info.Dr A MUST be a little wacky if he doesn't think your point is iumportant to check out.

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Percy says, ..."self appointed individuals,"...Who are they?
I see them as the unappointed progressives, the liberal democratic lobby that lives in the insanity of utopian worlds they think will better serve us in spite of The Facts: The Progressive liberal lobby that directs the power inherent in gathering together the 47% of the country that has its hand out for special unwarranted treatment, gayness, feminism, and unions refuse to focus upon their own Party Base of Welfare recipients who are raising the criminal element that uses illegal guns to kill each other.The people here who will ever admit that Truth relize they can not accept any criticism of anyone one of the seven grouos which together are the Democrats who elect themselves to high office.

Yes that is what the chart says.EXECUTION.... vs murder rate.The supposed death penalty which has hardly resulted in exeecutions since @ only 35 people/year have actually been executed.
The word is out.Execution for Murder really means a long 20 year appeal, and probably getting simple jail time as short as seven years, REGARDLESS of whether it is a supposed penalty.As of September 18, 2011 -- 1,267 people have been executed in the U.S. since 1976, when the death penalty was reinstated.

compared to: Edited by kofh2u, : No reason given.

First, it is foolish to examine whether the State has or has not the death Penalty on the books, because what counts is whether the criminal element KNOWS the will actually be executed.Second, if we look at it State-by-State he is just dead wrong:YEAR 2011 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 2005 2004 2003 2002 2001 2000 1999 1998 1997 1996Texas 4.4 4.9 5.4 5.6 5.9 5.9 6.2 6.1 6.4 6 6.2 5.9 6.1 6.8 6.8 7.7
The number of executions in Texas number is four times as many as Virginia (the state with the second-highest total of executions in the post-Gregg era).
Note the murder rate straight down to almost 75% of 1996. YEAR 2011 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 2005 2004 2003 2002 2001 2000 1999 1998 1997 1996
Virginia 3.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.3 5.2 6.1 5.2 5.6 5.3 5.1 5.7 5.7 6.2 7.2 7.5Virginia (the state with the second-highest total of executions in the post-Gregg era).
Note: Rate down more than 200%.YEAR 2011 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 2005 2004 2003 2002 2001 2000 1999 1998 1997 1996
Ohio 4.4 4.2 4.6 4.7 4.5 4.7 5.1 4.5 4.6 4.6 4 3.7 3.5 4 4.7 4.8
Ohio has executed only @ 1.5 persons/year since 1976. Note the consistent rate of murders.YEAR 2011 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 2005 2004 2003 2002 2001 2000 1999 1998 1997 1996
West Virginia 4.3 3.1 4.6 3.3 3.5 4.1 4.4 3.7 3.5 3.2 2.2 2.5 4.4 4.3 4.1 3.8West Virginia executes zero. Note the consistent rate.YEAR 2011 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 2005 2004 2003 2002 2001 2000 1999 1998 1997 1996
Pennsylvania 5.0 5.1 5.3 5.6 5.8 5.9 6.1 5.2 5.3 5.1 5.3 4.9 4.9 5.3 5.9 5.7Pennsylvania : Although Pennsylvania has the death penalty on the books, and had 228 convicted murderers on death row as of 2009, the last time the state actually executed anyone was in 1999. Since the state reinstated the death penalty in 1978, only three people have been executed as of 2009, and all three had waived their appeal rights. Pennsylvania has never executed anyone who has taken full advantage of the appeal process.[1]
Note the consistent rate.YEAR 2011 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 2005 2004 2003 2002 2001 2000 1999 1998 1997 1996New Jersey 4.3 4.2 3.7 4.3 4.4 4.9 4.8 4.5 4.7 3.9 4 3.4 3.5 4 4.2 4.2New Jersey: No prisoner has been put to death in the Garden State these past 45 years.
Note the consistent rate of murders.

Just not true.The news worthy mass murders like at Sandy get our attention, bu they have been consistent occurences at the same rate in America for a century.
They kill very few people, but get enormous headlines.The bulk of murders occur because of Black Market enforcements of the Drug dealers who basically shoot each other, often missing and hitting a bystander.The rest of the majority are just fatherless kids in the hood who get illegal guns and shoot other kids.Violent crime in general is almost non-existent outside of the inner cities or in regard to drug dealers protecting their business, money, inventory, or opposing their take overs.Gun control will do nothing but take away our opportunity to revolt some day.

So?It is clear that punishment serves the interest of correcting behavior in every case where it is so used from our own childhood forward.That other social forces will assist in making crime diminish in general is irrelevent to what the foolish Left liberals are doing is just insanity.

What they want, Nancy already is asking for.
They want to register every gun, and know where and who has it.This will allow confiscation if tyranny becomes both necessary and desirable.
Since Sandy Hook and the talk about gun control 1000 new para-military organizations have appeared.These internal "citizen Militias" (i.e.; 2nd amendment right groups), are seen as possible terrorist organizations (chuckle chuckle,... meaning terrorists against the politicians).
The Fed is already grouping them as if they are extensions of Timothy Mc Vay who blew up the Fed building years ago.This name calling is their smoke screen used to make such legally founded militias Politically Incorrect.
Essentially, they have the ground work for having found these organizations guilty before they actually act in any capacity.

Kids of single mothers raised together in the urban areas and schooled with each other for 12 years in a sub-culture of anarchy and rule by force amongst them end with kids killing people, most themselves.Very, very few murders occur outside of the inner cities of America where the Welfare Housing of Black people grouo them all together with no male authority except the toughsest kid in the neighborhhod, or, worse, the craziest.

But Mothers Against Drunk Drivers, (MADD), has reduced auto fatalities from a previous average of 50,000/annually to 25,000/annually, illustrating that the Death Penalty would do like wise for the murder rates.

... intuitively...?That has been the basis for people here, intuitively telling us that they know guns are the solutuon to murder.The Logical/Mathematic Facts are that swift, immediate, well advertised and known death sentences to killers stop murders.The Logical/Mathematic Facts are that swift, immediate, well advertised and known prison sentences to drunk drivers stop auto accidents.

Yeah, yeah, yeah,... but you fail to list the holes and refuse to see that murders decline when death sentences are carry out timely and often.And, you protect the children of Single Mothers who are the actual killers who use stolen or blackmarket guns to kill people by no acknowledging that Stats which bear this out.

Do you realize that hald as many people are killed by autos since Drunk Drivers have een taken off the road, fined, imprisoned, and punished????Can't you loigically connect the dots and apply this to gun users who kill people?