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Yawn.But again, what relevance does that have to anything?Why are gun deaths an issue when they are so small compared to other deaths like traffic deaths?

Well, not sure they were all needless deaths but that too is irrelevant. Not one gun killed anyone, it was people not the guns.And again, the issue with children is not the guns but education.Sorry Percy but I am far more concerned about bigger issues, ones we are NOT addressing.

Your playing semantic games while people die. Reduce folks speeding or driving drunk and it will reduce needless vehicular deaths.See how easy it is?But I am trying to address a big problem not just a small but vocal one.

But I do feel the topic is worth discussing, and am trying to point out that the solutions suggested are at best sophomoric and in many cases just stupid.The issue is not guns but misuse of tools; it is the same issue are vehicular deaths and that is ignorance and disregard of existing laws.

You may find the topic interesting as do I. It is fascinating watching folk try to avoid dealing with the real issue.If we banned vehicles it would reduce vehicular deaths.

Don't you mean that handguns do not serve a useful purpose that YOU see?

It is also impressive that you seem totally incapable of reading what I post.I have said repeatedly that the issue is a matter of misuse, of a lack of education and a disrespect for regulations in the US.But regulations mean nothing when they are generally ignored and in the US, ignoring regulations is rampant.

I cannot help peoples inability to actually read what it written. That is NMP. I have outlined most of the problems but will gladly attempt yet again.In the US we currently have no way to track who should be prevented from buying a gun. We do not track mental disorders or physical limitations. We do not educate people on gun safety just as we do not educate people about safe driving (a much larger problem).We need to track such information. Hell, it would likely be a good idea if the US actually had a list of who is a citizen.I would support making concealed handguns illegal and requiring open carry. Let the public see that gun owners are just like everyone else and really a far smaller threat than the average driver.I would support mandatory gun training and annual certification (but only if we also required it to drive a vehicle; folks with guns don't scare me but all them drivers out there do).I would support recognizing that there are NO accidental discharge incidents, if a modern handgun goes off when it was not intended then it is negligence, not accident.I would support far stricter enforcement of existing gun laws (but also vehicular infractions).I have never said I opposed all legal restrictions on guns, just the really stupid ones I've seen suggested.

Of course I not only think but did answer your questions.I have said I do not oppose regulations, only stupid regulations.

I will try yet again.It is illegal to sell a handgun to someone who has a physical or mental condition that would make them ineligible for gun ownership, yet we find such folk buying guns. Since the US has no way to track or identify such people the laws get broken.Gun owners are supposed to keep their guns secured yet we find people getting guns from family members.No minor is supposed to ever have a gun unsupervised, yet we find children with loaded guns.In the US you are not allowed to just shoot folk except under specific circumstances yet we find guns being used co commit crimes.It would be nice if I could trust you were done here but I fear that too is just not true.I am always happy to discuss my position on a subject and even try to repeat explanations for those who have difficulty understanding.

Absolutely and a great example of my point and why the idea of banning guns is so utterly stupid.If we want to do something to make the US safer we need to get the drivers that do 90 in a 55MPH zone off the road permanently.

Guns are beautiful.Shooting is fun.Guns pose no threat to me.

But I am not the students at Umpqua and the threat to me from guns is so small as to be nearly ignored. But in the almost unimaginable chance guns did pose a threat to me I carry one myself. And yes, of course the threat of mishandling or misuse of my guns really is zero.Edited by jar, : remove extra "d"

As I have said, the threat is so negligible that I simply don't worry about it, however I also do always try to maintain vigilance and consider what might be needed. Nor have I made any such claim as you would know if you read what I wrote. But I do practice for such scenarios and particularly as I have gotten older and less physically capable I have tried to increase my awareness. But again, any threat to me from guns is simply so far down the list if things to worry about that it simply doesn't concern me. Of course I can always remember to lock a gun up if I am not carrying it. Fortunately most of my guns don't have safeties. And of course I check to see if a bullet is in the chamber; any gun without a bullet in the chamber is not something I would carry except during certain competitions. And of course I never aim a gun accidentally at anyone.I do not believe an accidental discharge is even possible with any modern weapon and that anyone making such a claim is simply at best ignorant, more likely lying. There can be negligent discharges though.And the one thing in your laundry list is the possibility of a psychiatric condition. That though is again not of any greater threat related to guns than anything else.Edited by Admin, : Fix quote dBCode.

Actually I don't mind at all when you make absolutely laughable ludicrous and naive statements. If you do not want me to point those out, then don't make them.There really is no threat of misusing or mishandling my guns. I actually understand just how dangerous they are and so do not misuse or mishandle my guns. For over a half century no one has been harmed by my guns.