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Topic: Gun Control Again
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ringo
Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 4239 of 5179 (770310)
10-03-2015 12:53 PM
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Reply to: Message 4236 by Faith
10-03-2015 12:39 PM
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Re: a social problem with a social solution
Faith writes: Praying in God's will ALWAYS works.
Billy Graham once said that God always answers prayer - sometimes the answer is "no". The problem is that in praying for God to "do His will" you don't always know what His will is. Maybe His will is that Americans should thin the herd.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 4280 of 5179 (770371)
10-04-2015 2:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 4250 by Faith
10-03-2015 3:08 PM
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Re: a social problem with a social solution
Faith writes: "Thin the herd" isn't something that would ever be in God's will.
*COUGH* Flood *COUGH*
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ringo
Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 4281 of 5179 (770372)
10-04-2015 2:15 PM
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Reply to: Message 4268 by Faith
10-04-2015 8:27 AM
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Re: Prayer works if you do it right
Faith writes: You do make it hard to love you, but I'm not giving up.
It isn't always easy to love you either  but we (some of us) do - and we don't even have a god telling us to.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 4305 of 5179 (770419)
10-05-2015 11:43 AM
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Reply to: Message 4287 by Faith
10-04-2015 6:09 PM
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Re: Prayer works if you do it right
Faith writes: Should be even easier once I get used to this love thing.
I find that love is easier after giving up Christianity.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 4306 of 5179 (770420)
10-05-2015 11:53 AM
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Reply to: Message 4303 by Faith
10-05-2015 10:30 AM
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Re: The Culture of Gun Fetishism
Faith writes: I've known a lot of gun owners and there isn't a shred of resemblance between them and that Hollywood-invented portrait of them.
It isn't "Hollywood-invented"; it's what we see on the news - like a father whose daughter has just been shot to death saying, "I need a gun."
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ringo
Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Gun Owners: Does the NRA speak for you?
Cat Sci writes: Can I buy my brother a shotgun for Christmas? Can someone give me a gun so long as I don't purchase it from them?
Hell no.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 4367 of 5179 (770585)
10-08-2015 11:41 AM
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Reply to: Message 4366 by AZPaul3
10-08-2015 8:44 AM
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Re: Gun Owners: Does the NRA speak for you?
AZPaul3 writes: Barring any legal hold, hell yes, it can be done.
My hell no was more to the question, "SHOULD it be done?" I have no doubt that it CAN be done in many places. I wouldn't be surprised if there were places in the US where there are no "legal holds" to giving firearms to toddlers. The problem we are discussing in this thread is that the existing legal holds are woefully inadequate.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 4373 of 5179 (770618)
10-09-2015 12:58 PM
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Reply to: Message 4372 by NoNukes
10-09-2015 12:47 PM
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Re: Oh, gee, another mass shooting, what a surprise.
quote:
Two separate student groups got into a confrontation, the confrontation turned physical and one of our students, Steven Jones, 18, produced a handgun and shot four of our other students," Fowler said.
My first thought was that it was a bizarre end to a debate: reductio ad firearm.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Sweden Sword Attack
Cat Sci writes: Well, obviously guns are more effective weapons. What's your point?
The obvious point would be that weapons aren't appropriate in every situation.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: insurrections and state militias
Theodoric writes: The whiskey rebellion would be a strange example for the gun nuts to use.
By gun-nut logic, terrorists ought to have the right to bear arms against the government.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: insurrections and state militias
Theodoric writes: They would have to show that they really aren't standing up for the Constitution and rule of law.
I forgot that no American - not even a rabid terrorist - would dream of challenging the Holy Constitution. 
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ringo
Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Now Europe wishes it had a second amendment
dronester writes: ... which could be better spent on eliminating oppressive and humiliating cultures that produce terrorism....
Eliminating cultures? Do you plan to involve IG Farben in that project?
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ringo
Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: veering back on topic . . .
dronester writes: The west can continue spending billions of dollars bombing them, supplying the region with even more weapons, keep supporting human right violating dictators/nations (Saudi Arabia, Hussein, bin Laden, Gaddaffi, etc.,) or we can use the money to help build/support functioning democracies.
"Eliminating cultures" sounded more like the former than the latter.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: I AM suggesting . . .
Omnivorous writes: Given all that, why isn't it sensible to have a few anti-aircraft placements around a high profile target?
I'm not sure that splattering the wreckage of an airliner all over Manhattan is an improvement.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: I AM suggesting . . .
Omni writes: The goal is to prevent strikes on a densely populated central target. One assumes there will be fewer casualties in more thinly populated outlying areas by mounting defenses at the city's perimeter.
IF you can muster the political will to shoot hundreds of civilians out of the sky, you still have the problem of anticipating where the wreckage lands. I doubt that you can aim your collateral damage that accurately.
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