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Hi RAZD, I was counting Puerto Rico, and American Samoa.Because in my opinion by the time there could be a constitutional convention there would be an executive order making them a State. They both have representatives in the House already, their voting is very limited.All the citizens in Puerto Rico are American citizens and all the citizens of American Somoa are American Nationals, but everyone that has one American parent are American citizens.If there was no executive order there would only be 50 which would only require 38 to change the Constitution.God Bless,

Hi No, Apparantly I wasn't thinking at all.God Bless,

Hi Straggler, Why do you think history keeps repeating itself?
Why has there been so many instances like the one going on in Syria today?It is because of the despotism, and tyranny that you are not even willing to consider the possibility of them happening. Should I apologize for the military training I received for four years for a mission that never took place.I don't have to think about being vigilant, it is second nature to me.
I only have 2 doors to my house. They are steel doors swinging to the outside, in a jam that is rabited. there is 5/8s inch of wood that would have to be broke off for someone to kick the door in. My house came with these doors. Where do you get that idea from?If someone comes to my door I can see them on a monitor and know who is there before they knock, or ring the door bell. What makes you think that we have to relentless prepare, you act like that is work?We go to the firing range like many people go to the golf course, football game, soccer game, bowling alley or the beach.It is recreation for us to compete against others. What is not sane about how I live? Be specific. But since you don't know me you really don't know how I live. In a perfect world that might be correct. But we don't live in a perfect world. We live in a world that is populated by people that have no respect for themselves or anyone else, or their property. No one has the ability to break through a steel door and enter my house and threaten me with a cigarette. But with a gun or knife in his/her hand they could threaten me. So why doesn't the FACT that only 358 people were killed with a rifle in the US compared to 745 being killed by hands and feet make a difference.We could save many more lives by cutting everybodys hands and feet off. Come to think of it that would solve the gun problem also. I have presented the facts and figures to back up my arguments.But when it comes to fear I have none. I fear no man, no animal, or death.The worst thing a person can do to me is to kill me and put me in heaven, so what do I have to fear?But that does not mean I have to be stupid and sit around waiting for an event like one of the following to take place and put me in heaven.3 die in home invasion
MSN | Outlook, Office, Skype, Bing, Breaking News, and Latest Videos.1 dead 3 wounded in home invasion
Lumberton teen held in home invasion death - WWAYTV31 dead in home invasion
WPD investigates murder during home invasion - WWAYTV33 dead in home invasion
3 killed in apparent home invasion in Thomasville - WWAYTV31 dead in home invasion
Wesh1 dead in home invasion
Anderson News, Sports, Weather, Business | Independent Mail1 dead in home invasion
http://www.wtsp.com/...ct-arrested-in-Mulberry-home-invasion1 dead in home invasion
Teen Sentenced To 60 Years In Home Invasion Death - CBS Baltimore1 dead in home invasion
http://www.fios1news.com/longisland/node/185341 intruder dead in home invasion
http://www.cinewsnow.com/...-results-in-death-139650133.html1 dead in home invasion
Warrants of arrest issued for brothers in home invasion | CBC News1 dead but 2 shot in home invasion
Teen neighbor charged in fatal home invasion robberyThis is just a few of the thousands such events.In the US a home or business suffers a breakin every 14 1/2 seconds on average.Many of those are just as the ones referenced above.As I said I fear nothing or no one.I have possessed and used guns for most of my life. They are just as important to me as my skill saw, compressor or any other tools I own. They are a tool nothing else.I love to bowl and am a scratch bowler. I love to fish. I love to hunt. I love to go to the firing range and out shoot hot shots that are 50 years younger than I am.Paranoid = irrational fear or distrust of others:
Prepared = ready beforehand.I am prepared due to the military training I had. I stay prepared because I love to compete.So what is my problem?God Bless,

Hi Percy, You have made these statements several times and I have asked upon what stats you support your assertion.Do you have any or is your assertion just your opinion?God Bless.

Hi Percy, Why is a gun present in my home a threat to all in its vicinity?God Bless,

Hi Percy, I would agree that a gun in the hands of people who do not respect them and do not know how to handle them safely is a danger.The solution to that would be what is practiced in Switzerland.But how do you propose to get to zero guns?You would have to confiscate all the weapons in the US. Privately owned guns is well over 300 million guns.Police have almost 1 million guns.Military has around 3 million guns.All would have to go to get to zero weapons.The reason all would have to go is that the police and military lose thousands of guns each year. Some are stolen and some are sold on the black market by crooked military men and crooked cops.Then you have Mexico from which guns would come into the US.The criminals are not going to give up their guns.But if you could get rid of all the guns even the ones that the criminals have and shut the borders solid so no guns could enter.It takes $7 worth of material to make a 12 gauge shotgun that will fire a 12 gauge shell. It takes less that $25 worth of material to make a .44 cal. pistol. These are single shot weapons and all the parts required are available in most hardware stores.So everyone who reloads shells today would be able to still produce and have guns and ammunition.England is always pointed to as a success in gun control. Yet they have gun crimes and unarmed policemen killed by guns.In the 3 years prior to March of 2009 there were more than 165 pistols, rifles and machine guns lost or stolen from the Armed Forces.Read more: MoD has 'lost' 165 pistols, rifles and machine guns... and 27,000 rounds of ammunition | Daily Mail Online.So much for keeping guns out of the hands of criminals.Now if you can figure out how to eliminate guns let me know what you come up with.But you are not talking about getting to zero guns. You are just talking about taking the right of the law abiding citizen to keep and bear Arms away from the citizens of the United States.In that case the ones left with guns could impose their will upon those who do not have guns.Until then I will keep mine.God Bless,

Hi Straggler, And I would challenge you to come to the US and live in an area of my choosing and leave your doors unlocked for 48 hours.The United States is not England.I lived in Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands for 15 years where no one is supposed to own weapons unless they are at the police firing range and stored there. During the time I was there the Country led the world at least 3 years of that time with murders per 100,000.To stay in practice I had to go to the police range and use a borrowed weapon ( I usually used Gov. Scotts weapons, he was kin to my mothers family) to stay in practice and to have the fun of participating in shooting competition.So I know what it is to live without guns. I just don't intend to live without my guns to hunt with or to protect my family with in the US. BTW there was nothing to hunt in the Caymans. I had the skills when I lived in a house that did not even have locks on the doors. I even kept guns in the unlocked house on a gun rack on the wall.Until I came back from the Cayman Islands I had never really thought about my skills as necessary for protection. But I did not come back to the country I had left. What is dangerous about me owning my guns?There are millions of people who are just as skilled in the use of guns as I am. Most started out with guns used to get food to survive, then went into military and learned to use guns to survive along with a lot of other survival techniques. Since we learned to love to shoot targets in military we continued to do so after leaving the military. You are free to reject anything you want too. If I lived in England I might be a little lax in my security but I doubt it. I would not have a gun but I would have all my other skills and would not be able to put them in the closet. And I have become accustomed to be sitting watching TV or working at my computer in the bedroom and the doorbell ring. I look at the monitor and see who is at the door. I can talk to them finding out what they need or want or if it is a salesman I can tell him/her I don't want any without ever getting out of my recliner. Just call me lazy but when I am typing a post to you I don't want to be disturbed. God Bless,

Hi oni, Yes.And in England which has much stricter rules than we do here they have criminals with guns. Even military full automatic weapons which have been stolen from the army.Just as we have criminals here with full automatic weapons which was stolen from army and navy as well as police. When the military and police furnish them with full automatic guns their supply would not be eliminated.The border to Mexico is wide open for drugs what would keep guns from coming across the border? Well I haven't seen any carrying their guns around. In fact you don't know they have one until they use it in a crime. Did you read the post I was responding too? At 73 I don't think it will ever happen in my lifetime.It takes a long time to add an admendment to the Constitution.
At present it would take 38 states to ratify an amendment.I just hope no idiots try to infringe the right of the citizens to keep and bear Arms until such an amendment is ratyfied.God Bless,

Hi Percy, What do you expect to happen when you tell the citizens of this country "We are going to ban assault weapons".Then you look at the list they call assault weapons and it is not limited to the AR15 and AK47 semi-automatic weapons which are look alikes but are not assault weapons.If they don't have one they are going to go out and buy one, before the ban takes place.I would like to have a core AR15 to target practice with as the ammunition costs 1/3 of what my 30.06 does.There is none available and the factory does not have any, they have already sold out. There is no 30 round magazines available. They sell out as fast as they are produced.The shooting at Sandy Hook has been the biggest boom to gun sales in my lifetime. We are talking about millions of gun sales.The range I go to usually has hundreds of rifles and shotguns on the walls. Now they don't have any on the walls and as fast as they can get them out of the boxes they are sold.Most of the guns they have left in the store is antiques or used shotguns.So all the grandstanding and discussions about banning rifles which only killed 358 people in the US in 2010 has put millions of guns into the hands of people which many if they do not get proper training will be a danger to society.So I would say that today we are worse off than we were before the tragedy occured.I have read some articles you posted earlier in the thread and am now in the process of researching the information that may or may not have been used to reach some conclusions.God Bless,

Hi Straggler, At the present I feel very safe in the area in which I live. We do have quite a bit of breakins but very seldom a murder.My real concern is not the present but a little ways down the road.
Our country owes 16 trillion dollars as they borrow 46 cents of every dollar that is spent. The total debt to outsiders and citizens is close to 300 trillion dollars.Just as soon as our bonds when offered has no buyers we will have to stop spending that 46 cents so there will be a 46% decrease in spending, if the country defaults on foreign debts.Within 2 months there will be millions of people who can not buy food as they will have no money to buy it with. When that happens
People will begin to take what they want and there will be rioting in the streets. I live in a retirement area 55 and older which will be a target for looters as we will be looked at as helpless.I do have quite a bit of food stored and means of obtaining fish close by. I also have seeds to plant and grow food with.If our government does not fix our spending problem which our president says we don't have it is inevitable that we will become like Greece was a few months back. The only difference is in America it will make Greece look like one of your trips to the park for a holiday.The argument here is being made that it is more dangerous to have guns than to not have guns. But when this country falls those that have guns will have a much better chance of surviving what follows, than those who do not have guns. My grandchildren have never seen a gun that I am aware of. They have not been taught to respect anyone or anything. They have no idea what a gun can do, or how much damage they can cause.They only come to visit when their parents want something which is only 5 or 6 times a year. So when they come I make sure all weapons are where they can not see or touch them. I don't insist. They call to make sure we are going to be home. In our association we have 2 olympic size swimming pools an olympic size wading pool and a gym with over 2 million dollars worth of equiptment in it. We like to keep in shape so we spend time using those tools. There are over 27 1/2 million retired military people in the US that have most of the training that I have. Since many have survived battles where they had to return fire at the enemy I am presuaded they are capable of defending themselves and their family.Now as to where they can empty an AR15 in a target the size of your heart I can not attest too. But I believe they are well qualified. Those are movie actors and I would not want either one of them covering my back in a fire fight.God Bless,

Hi Percy, I make no bones about it. I believe there are people that should not possess Guns.Alcoholic's should not possess guns.
Mentally ill people should not possess guns.
Drug addicts should not possess guns.
Convicted criminals should not possess guns.Now is it constitutional to infringe their right to keep and bear Arms is another question.According to the wording in the Constitution I believe the Constitution would have to be amended to limit any of those.I believe if those four types of people did not have guns there would be a great reduction in all crimes.If the crooks could not obtain weapons they would not go into a house where they thought they would be met with a gun.But there are criminals that are going to have guns regardless of what laws and rules are put in place. If they can't obtain them they can make them.The drug addicts and alcoholic's would not have a gun to commit crimes when they got high on drugs and alcohol.Thus the number of crimes would go down, while gun ownership would remain high.But if there was no guns in private homes the criminals would have a field day as they would not have to worry about kicking in a door and being met with the blast from a shotgun, or other gun.The crime rate would sky rocket as there would be no deterrent to keep criminals at bay.You say well there is the law. That is a joke in the US. Most burglary 911 call response time is 30 minutes, rape 911 calls 51 minutes.The criminal gets caught, tried, slapped on the wrist and is back out on the street in short order.If sent to jail, the criminal gets three meals a day gets to exercise, watch TV, and spends the rest of the time figuering out how he can ply the trade jailed for without getting caught again. Yet returns to jail in a very short time, for another vacation, where pampered and meals supplied for free.Prison should be so tough that when a person leaves there he has a trade and a very strong resolve to never return.Most guns that criminals obtain is obtained through corrupt licensed gun dealers. When checked by the ATF there is 1.2% of the licensed gun dealers who provide 57% of the guns used by criminals.Straw buyers is used to obtain guns for criminals. A friend or a family member. Some are obtained by paying a Straw buyer to purchase a gun for them.So the guns that are owned by law abiding citizen has nothing to do with whether a criminal can obtain a gun or not. And that citizen who has the gun does not affect the ratio of more guns more crimes.The more criminals and crazy loons that have guns will affect the ratio of more guns, more crimes.God Bless,

Hi Percy, Life is not precious in America. We kill a child every 20 seconds.So when we teach our children that it is alright to murder 1 child every 20 seconds what do you expect them to grow up thinking. If they can do it it is OK for me to kill a few.Yea I know that is warped thinking, but warped people think in warped ways and do warped things. The life of my wife is very precious as well as mine that is the reason I have kept my military training going since I got out of service.I have been doing a little reading and studying and I have found 1 study that has been quoted and coated several time that makes the statement you do concerning a gun owner being killed because there is a gun in the house than he/she would without a gun.Included is all gang shootings as they know each other or sometimes live in the same house and the shootings are drug related.I will discuss the study further tomorrow.But for now I have just done a google search well not really I did is several hours ago, on 'homeowners killed with their own gun by an intruder'.There was over 7 million hits and as you know things get repeated quite often in the searches.I read 330 articles on the results. There was 5 different articles that a homeowner was killed with their own gun.There was 9 articles where the intruder was killed with his own gun.The others was homeowners capturing, wounding, or killing the intruders.Except the ones that were about the study you have been referencing or some variation of it.So when you add husband and wife shootings of each other in the home and children shooting parents to those killed by the intruder with their own gun the number would be far less than the people who saved their life with their own gun by killing the intruder and in several instances more than one intruder.You can find the story Here.It is about 2 60 year olds being shot and still shooting the intruder who died later.God Bless,

Hi Percy, Abortions were first made legal in 1900.And yes guns have always been available in the US.But the children of today has been desensitized to death and what is reality. I am trying to understand your claim.

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In other words, having a gun in the house makes you less safe, not more safe. The fewer guns in American homes the fewer gun deaths there will be, and that's a good thing..

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As far as the homeowners gun in the home being a danger for the homeowner to be killed by his/her own gun is a myth.That has been proven by the search I did. If you disagree with my findings please present your information refuting that information. McKown is an idiot and is in a wheelchair because he wanted to give a killer a chance to live.A man that is killing people is to be stopped and the words put your gun away means nothing to such a person who is killing people and naturally he fired at McKown.That would be like being in a war zone and telling the enemy to put down his gun or you was going to shoot him.Had McKown reacted as I have been taught the assailant would have been dead and McKown would not have got shot.I have been berated because I say if a man breaks down my steel door and enters my house I will shoot him the moment he enters my house I will not look to see if he has a weapon or not because if I do I will wind up like McKown did or worse dead. The only thing that is perishable is your accuracy with the weapon you are carrying or have in your posession.The problem is unless you have military training or have went to a self defence school you have no business packing heat.As far as challenging a criminal who has a gun, if you issue a warning you will be shot even if you have your gun pointed at him/her when you issue the warning in most cases.So if someone has a gun and is shooting people you just pull your gun and shoot him as your life and the life of others is in imminent danger.Now I have to find out how many homeowners are killed by their signifant other in the house because a gun is in the house.Then I have to find out how many homeowners are killed by their children because a gun is in the house.Then I have to find out how many homeowners are killed by someone else living in the house because a gun is in the house.I will get back to you as I progress.BTW does your claim, "The fewer guns in American homes the fewer gun deaths there will be" include suicides?God Bless,

Hi Panda, I am sorry you have to be fed with a spoon.I did maintain a constant position. I don't teach children it is alright to commit murder but as a country we have made it legal to commit murder. Which is teaching our children it is alright to commit murder. If you are going to make such outlandish obervations you should at least not quote mine. But if you didn't you couldn't support your accusations.Here is the part you left out.

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If they can do it it is OK for me to kill a few.

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Yea I know that is warped thinking, but warped people think in warped ways and do warped things.

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When you add the rest of the quote you see that the children are doing the thinking and I am saying that is warped thinking.But you are part of the problem by promoting that kind of warped thinking. If life was precious in America there would be no abortions.
There would be no alcohol.
There would be no ilegal drugsThe drugs and alcohol cause many children to go to bed each night hungry.So tell me how precious life is in America?But yes my life and the life of my wife is precious to me.But those who want to take away my right to be able to defend my wife and myself does not think my life or my wifes life is precious. They want to allow the criminal the opportunity to choose whether my life or my wifes life is important.I say no thank you, the Constitution says you or the government has no right to infringe my possesing and bearing Arms.Now why don't you get down to doing some studying and present information as to why I am more at danger by having a gun in my home which I am very proficient in using as well as my wife to protect our lives.God Bless,

Hi Straggler, All preparations have been made for years, So how am I wasting my time preparing?I do not live in fear of someone busting into my house and killing me or my wife. They would not stand a chance.I have no promise of tomorrow so I live for today.I go where I want to go and do what I want to do and while I am doing so I do not have to worry about some criminal with bad intentions doing me or my wife harm.I am satisfied with my situation and if you were in my position you would probably be miserable.So I am going to suggest to you as I did to Panda. Why don't you do some studying and present the information I need to show me that my life is more at danger because I have guns in my house than I would be if I had no guns in my house?God Bless,