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ringo Member (Idle past 772 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Modulous writes:
Evidence?
Yes. They are used to avoid damaging the ears, to avoid noise pollution complaints when hunting or recreational shooting and to reduce recoil as primary purposes.
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Modulous Member (Idle past 345 days) Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
Evidence? What would you count as evidence? Everybody I've seen talk about suppressors who uses them on the internet cites those reasons. Their usage in criminal acts is low. There are about a million of them in circulation, the NIOSH and CDC suggest their use for hearing protection for those who are exposed to lots of gunfire (for instance regular attendees or workers at gun ranges).
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2661 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Modulous writes:
...hearing protection for those who are exposed to lots of gunfire (for instance regular attendees or workers at gun ranges)...
But they are notorious for ruining the accuracy of your shot. Why would you want to use one at the shooting range when you can use perfectly good headphones?- xongsmith, 5.7d
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Why would you want to use one at the shooting range when you can use perfectly good headphones? WHAT!?
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2661 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
...headphones
WHAT!? Ear protection, like the kind you wear when you ride in the front beside the pilot of a helicopter. So you can hear the pilot talking over the blades. *shrug* Edited by xongsmith, : No reason given.- xongsmith, 5.7d
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Modulous Member (Idle past 345 days) Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined:
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But they are notorious for ruining the accuracy of your shot. What they are notorious for is unimportant. The truth is more important. In truth, for most applications and contexts, they improve accuracy by reducing recoil.
quote: Sucuri WebSite Firewall - Access Denied
quote: Suppressor Effects - Gun Digest
Why would you want to use one at the shooting range when you can use perfectly good headphones? a) A suppressor reduces the noise for everyone. So if someone has ear protection removed for some reason when a shot is fired, they are still protected. b) People who are living nearby will thank you. Traditionally watching television with ear protection on is couter productive. c) Shooters wearing ear protection are less likely to hear someone warning of a dangerous situation. d) In any event:
Edited by Modulous, : No reason given.
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2661 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
i stand corrected!
- xongsmith, 5.7d
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ringo Member (Idle past 772 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Modulous writes:
So, a fraction of one per cent. There are about a million of them in circulation.... The next question would be: In the states where silencers are illegal, why?
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Modulous Member (Idle past 345 days) Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
There are about a million of them in circulation.... So, a fraction of one per cent. I'm not sure what that fraction is? Per gun in circulation? Yes.
The next question would be: In the states where silencers are illegal, why? That was an earlier question. You asked it in Message 5062. My answer was
quote: NoNukes gave details of:
quote: If correct, 'local politics' seems about right. It seems reasonable to suppose it is correct.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3986 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 5.8
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My appraisal - A gun nut who collected a supply (of approximations) of weapons of war.
The next step is to cross the line and execute a little war. MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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ringo Member (Idle past 772 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Modulous writes:
Because of the small number of silencers in actual use, it seems likely that banning and legalizing are both based on local politics.
If correct, 'local politics' seems about right. It seems reasonable to suppose it is correct.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
"Because of the small number of silencers in actual use, it seems likely that banning and legalizing are both based on local politics."
It appears that legalizing at least has arrived as a national political issue. The Republicans want to pass laws that will repeal state law in 16 states. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith
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Percy Member Posts: 23273 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
26 killed at Baptist church in Texas
The calls for effective gun control will be raised again, and they will fall on the deaf ears of gun nuts again. --Percy
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Taq Member Posts: 10392 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
Percy writes: The calls for effective gun control will be raised again, and they will fall on the deaf ears of gun nuts again. The most immediate calls will be to enforce the gun control laws already in the books. The shooter had been convicted of domestic abuse which should have prevented him from purchasing a fire arm to begin with. However, he was able to buy a gun from a local shop in 2016. His conviction occurred during his time in the Air Force and he did time in military prison, and it appears that the Air Force forget to enter his conviction into the correct database. Edited by Taq, : No reason given. Edited by Taq, : No reason given.
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Coffeeblack Junior Member (Idle past 2694 days) Posts: 2 From: Oakland CA, USA Joined: |
So ridiculous. Nothing will be done until the NRA gets fat and happy in OTHER ways, allowing them feel comfortable in loosening their grip on conservative lawmakers.
But then again, it's not ever that simple. They give money to corporations who in turn give money to right wing politicians. Hard to vet.
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