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foreveryoung
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Message 1 of 174 (685743)
12-26-2012 1:22 PM


As everyone has seen with obvious displeasure, I am not the most agreeable person to deal with, at least not in online debates. Although I do not behave as such in public, there are other qualities about me that prevent me from being seen as mister congeniality.
Part of my personal angst is that I have zero luck in attracting good looking women to date. I can get dates, but they are usually unattractive and/or overweight. I guess you could criticize me for being shallow, but those are my standards. Good looking women usually scowl at me when they even get the slightest hint that I may entertain the possibility of asking them out. For this reason, I have become disallusioned with american women for dating purposes. I have placed by picture and profile on a foreign dating site and as of now, have over 200 hundred responses from beautiful women who appear to be desperate. I don't believe they are desperate because of their looks; they are desperate because of the situation they find themselves in and are eager to have a foreign man rescue them from that and take them to a place where they can have a better life.
I feel like a huge loser for even considering this possibility, but I am at my wits end. Has anyone ever had experience with these sites and are they a scam as I suspect they are?

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Message 5 of 174 (685766)
12-26-2012 6:10 PM


Thanks guys. I have been getting advice from women friends in real life. This is the first advice I have gotten from guys. It gives a totally different perspective. Someone who did not post publicly on this thread gave me really good advice in a PM and I will be messaging him regarding that soon. I am also going to read RAZD's evolution based thread and see if it gives me any insights.

  
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Message 13 of 174 (685828)
12-27-2012 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by nwr
12-26-2012 9:31 PM


nwr writes:
What's the bet that 199 of those are scams?
I am willing to bet that there is more than meets the eye to all of them. I wish I know of a way to talk to them in such a way as to rat them out so to speak. I want to catch them in the act of their deception.

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Message 36 of 174 (686177)
12-29-2012 3:39 PM


There has been a ton of wisdom and enlightenment shown here. I will come back to read this thread for some time, at least until I get this problem licked. I did realize something though after reading this which I suspected already. This isn't just a women problem for me; it is a social problem for me. I may have an IQ of 136 in general but I have less than a 60 IQ when it comes to social ability. I am fucking scared to death. That is my problem. I guess it might be called social anxiety but I am not even sure that qualifies.

  
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Message 37 of 174 (686570)
01-02-2013 2:37 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by dwise1
12-29-2012 4:27 AM


Well, I am going to take a dance class at college when I decide to take my fine arts course as part of the general education requirements.

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foreveryoung
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Message 40 of 174 (686608)
01-02-2013 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Dr Adequate
01-02-2013 3:37 PM


Dancing is a fine art now? I know it isn't when I do it.
Fine Arts
Complete one of the following:
ARTH 2010 Art History Survey I (3 cr.)
ARTH 2020 Art History Survey II (3 cr.)
DANC 3500 Dance as Human Experience (3 cr.)
HUMT 2310 Arts and Ideas I (3 cr.)
HUMT 2320 Arts and Ideas II (3 cr.)
MUSC 1030 Introduction to Music (3 cr.)
MUSC 1035 History of Jazz (3 cr.)
THEA 1030 Introduction to the Theatre (3 cr.)
DANC 3500: This course involves the study of dance as a societal phenomenon. Students will examine the unique characteristics of dance and its various functions in society. Emphasis will be on dance in Western Civilization. However, materials will be included to the extent that they have influenced the development of dance in the West.
Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given.

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foreveryoung
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Message 43 of 174 (686692)
01-02-2013 9:21 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by dwise1
01-02-2013 8:27 PM


I will actually be taking a PE class next semester that isn't part of my degree requirements. It is called strength and conditioning and it will be mostly hands on.

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Message 44 of 174 (686693)
01-02-2013 9:23 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by onifre
01-02-2013 4:59 PM


It's hard to have a sense of humor when most of the people hate you and everything you stand for.

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foreveryoung
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Message 46 of 174 (686697)
01-02-2013 9:42 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by jar
01-02-2013 9:28 PM


Re: hate you?
I am mainly taking about onifre, Dr Adequate and Theodoric. I may have forgotten a few others but I am sure of those three.

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foreveryoung
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Message 57 of 174 (687261)
01-08-2013 10:39 PM


I know I don't have a sense of humor. My roommate recently threw a party for me as I was going out of town for two weeks. She knows that I have ZERO social skills and it was an effort to help me improve. She took several pictures at the party and everyone managed to be able to smile for the camera except for ME. I mean I tried as hard as I could and even when I tried to force a smile, it still showed up as a frown on the picture. My lack of a sense of humor and my desire to have one is one of the reasons for my recurrent depression states. I try positive thinking when negative thoughts enter, but I guess it takes a long time to convince your brain that it is thinking inaccurately about reality. One person said the main thing that is keeping from having a sense of humor is my lack of the ability to say "I don't give a shit", and really mean it. The only time when I am able to say that phrase is when I have had a few drinks. I recognize that is a dangerous place to be in and so I don't take the easy way out on that problem. I take everything very personally and even take things that were never meant to insult personally. It's enough to make you want to slit your wrists, but I haven't because I still hold out hope.

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foreveryoung
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Message 59 of 174 (687265)
01-08-2013 11:39 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by AZPaul3
01-08-2013 11:20 PM


What was going on in your head? What were you thinking about in front of the camera? Some people are just camera shy. Don't think they do well on film. Or is there something deeper in there eating at you?
In my conscious mind, I was thinking I have to force something that just isn't there. I am not able to smile period, camera or not, except for very rare occasions. The reason? It is subconscious and developed over time I assume. I am a very dark person and have been for a very long time.
Good. A sane man. I think you're more stable than you want to believe.
I am stable; I just feel desperate sometimes, like there is no light at the end of the tunnel.
When this happens do you know inside there is no insult intended ? Don't want to pry (well actually yah I do) care to relate an example?
No. I don't know there was no insult intended as was just revealed on this very thread. It is only after someone reveals the irrationality of my thoughts that I realize that there was no insult intended. I always assume people think the worst of me in any situation.

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foreveryoung
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Message 64 of 174 (687272)
01-09-2013 2:28 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by onifre
01-09-2013 1:33 AM


Have you tried drugs? Judging by how stiff you are around people I imagine you haven't. You should try doing some mushrooms, or maybe try some MDMA. Go on a mental trip. Evolve your brain, dude.
Are you serious????

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foreveryoung
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Message 65 of 174 (687273)
01-09-2013 2:33 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by dwise1
01-09-2013 2:10 AM


You say you're a dark person inside, well so am I. I just have the attitude that that is for me to have to deal with and that it isn't something I should inflict on others.
I don't want to be a dark person anymore. Why would you just settle for "dealing" with it? I fricken hate it. I want to get rid of it; not deal with it.

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foreveryoung
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Message 92 of 174 (687365)
01-09-2013 8:40 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by Shield
01-09-2013 7:27 PM


Exactly. Steve Harvey isn't speaking out of malice toward atheists. He is speaking out of ignorance.

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foreveryoung
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Message 97 of 174 (687488)
01-11-2013 1:35 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by AZPaul3
01-09-2013 2:07 PM


The guy in the white mask in this video is a dark person.
Really, the whole video is what I mean by being dark.
Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given.

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