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NoNukes
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Message 196 of 752 (826479)
01-02-2018 1:56 PM
Reply to: Message 195 by ICANT
01-02-2018 4:41 AM


Re: The Soma ("body" of Christ in the Greek) a soul of God (and the matter of universe?)

There is no scientific data until T=040.

I don't know if you care about getting this right or not, but I do know that you are going to post this again, so I'll make the attempt at getting you to fix it for next time. 040 is just zero, and is definitely not what you mean to communicate here. Almost certainly, what you really meant was T=10-40 second. (Might as well add some units while we are fixing things)


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I was thinking as long as I have my hands up … they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking — they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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NoNukes
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Message 198 of 752 (826498)
01-02-2018 8:51 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by ICANT
01-02-2018 6:52 PM


Re: The Soma ("body" of Christ in the Greek) a soul of God (and the matter of universe?)
You know I want to get things right so I edited my post to correct the time.

You should also change the 0 to a 10. You did make the correction of making the exponent negative, but the 10 is equally important. The correct value is 10-40 s.

If you was just in too big a hurry please go back and point out any other mistakes you found.

Since the majority of the work is your opinion about science, I don't see any reason to do that.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I was thinking as long as I have my hands up … they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking — they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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NoNukes
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Message 214 of 752 (826590)
01-04-2018 2:38 PM
Reply to: Message 200 by ICANT
01-03-2018 10:18 AM


Re: The Soma ("body" of Christ in the Greek) a soul of God (and the matter of universe?)
Since you do not refute any of my opinions I will assume that you are in agreement with each statement other than the time statement which I have corrected.

That would be a pretty idiotic thing to assume. I don't have the inclination to debunk every silly thing I see on the internet. I plan to attempt even less of that this year than I have in the past.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I was thinking as long as I have my hands up … they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking — they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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NoNukes
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Message 223 of 752 (826651)
01-06-2018 5:54 AM
Reply to: Message 222 by Thugpreacha
01-06-2018 1:36 AM


Re: The Soma ("body" of Christ in the Greek) a soul of God (and the matter of universe?)
And didn't they tell you in school that there was no such thing as a stupid question?

Yes, I have heard that said. But that bromide turns out to be wrong. There are stupid questions.

Many questions are not true requests for information but are instead thinly veiled attempts to state some position despite having a question mark at the end. The implied statements in those questions may well be stupid. Those are not the kinds of questions your school teacher was talking about, but they are the kind of questions ICANT asks very frequently.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I was thinking as long as I have my hands up … they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking — they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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NoNukes
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Message 262 of 752 (826765)
01-09-2018 11:35 AM
Reply to: Message 258 by ICANT
01-09-2018 10:04 AM


Re: Eternal power (energy)
That is not the way it is treated at EvC.

That is possibly correct. However, most of EvC are not physicists. In large part, folks here are reciting stuff that has been popularized. However, at least they are reciting it correctly, which is something you do only by accident.

Watching you make nonsense statements and requiring several attempts to even make a meaningful statement that is at least wrong is quite humorous. We are all familiar with the Kalam Cosmological argument, which is what your own argument approximates, but we are also familiar with the holes in that argument because by now everyone sees the holes. So we also get to watch you attempt to bluster over those by simply repeating your premise.

Well, you've managed to impress Phat with this technique, but it likely won't work on most other folks here.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I was thinking as long as I have my hands up … they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking — they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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NoNukes
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Message 266 of 752 (826783)
01-09-2018 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 263 by Thugpreacha
01-09-2018 11:41 AM


Re: Eternal power (energy)
He happens to believe that God created the universe and that it took a lot of energy! Whats so silly about that?

If you review what I wrote, you will see that I did not question ICANT's beliefs, only his statements of science.

In one respect, invoking the name of God is simply giving a personality to the energy involved in what came before the Big Bang. That is hardly a simple discussion

Really? Is that what you or anyone else here believes? Or are you just defending some notion that nobody, including you, has put forward?


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I was thinking as long as I have my hands up … they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking — they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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NoNukes
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Message 283 of 752 (826817)
01-10-2018 4:47 PM


This is not a miscellaneous topic
Can someone explain why this belongs in Coffee House. Did someone sneak by having an OP vetted properly?

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I was thinking as long as I have my hands up … they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking — they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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NoNukes
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Message 289 of 752 (826826)
01-10-2018 8:40 PM
Reply to: Message 288 by Son Goku
01-10-2018 6:20 PM


Re: Eternal power (energy)
There isn't really any assumptions.

By assumptions, some people might mean the following:

The laws of science were the same back in the day.
The earth did not open up and swallow up all of the tower pieces leaving no evidence.
There was no huge flood that covered the earth 6000 years ago.
No magical force was involved.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I was thinking as long as I have my hands up … they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking — they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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NoNukes
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Message 314 of 752 (826870)
01-13-2018 2:54 AM
Reply to: Message 309 by ICANT
01-12-2018 1:23 PM


Re: Eternal power (energy)
1. We do not know what existed at T=10-42 s.
2. Whatever existed at T=10-43 s was:

Sigh. 10-42 is a tiny fraction of a second later than 10-43 which makes your sentence nonsense.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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NoNukes
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Message 318 of 752 (826890)
01-13-2018 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 317 by ICANT
01-13-2018 8:41 AM


Re: Eternal power (energy)
What would you propose to plow through that hot dense universe to get information prior to T=10-43 s?

Is nonsense?

Okay, $#@#$. 10-42 is not prior to 10-43.

Get it now? Or do you need a lecture on the number line.

Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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NoNukes
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Message 330 of 752 (826925)
01-14-2018 1:29 PM
Reply to: Message 320 by ICANT
01-13-2018 10:00 PM


Re: Eternal power (energy)
Do you know why there is any current limit on our ability to opine on the state of the universe? If not then your speculations about the probability of doing better are just idle typing.

And there is no smallest number just bigger than zero.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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NoNukes
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Message 357 of 752 (827152)
01-18-2018 12:33 PM
Reply to: Message 336 by ICANT
01-15-2018 1:09 AM


Re: Eternal power (energy)
The number T=1x10-6176 is equal to the smallest positive non-zero value that can be represented by a quadruple-precision IEEE decimal floating-point value.

That means that the cited number is the smallest number that can be expressed in 128 bits using a particular computer format that you could not hope to understand. I certainly won't try to explain the format to you.

If that number is wrong, what is the right number?

There is no right number. There is no smallest possible positive number. That's why your post is not even wrong.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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NoNukes
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Message 361 of 752 (827160)
01-18-2018 2:28 PM
Reply to: Message 359 by ICANT
01-18-2018 2:05 PM


Re: Eternal power (energy)
I am glad you agree that as stated the number is correct.

I also know that 64 bit and 32 bit has different numbers.

You are beyond any help. No one should listen to anything you say about science. I hope our discussion on this topic is sufficient to illustrate that to folks who stumble across this thread.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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