Who Made God?

jar writes:I was born into a Christian Family, raised as a Christian, Baptized in the Rite of Baptism, Confirmed in the Rite of Confirmation, educated in a Christian School and a registered member of a recognized Christian Denomination.

I am a Christian.

jar writes:I do believe that Jesus is GOD but while he was here on earth He was fully man, human, just like you, just like me.I think lots of folk misunderstand the term incarnate. They have, if they even really think about it at all, some idea of incarnate means "God in Human Form" as though it was some costume GOD put on so he could sneak around and spy on the humans.That makes as little sense theologically IMHO as the idea that Jesus let himself be killed as some blood sacrifice.Jesus was a teacher. The information we have all says that everything he did during his life was to teach people. If the message was as some have said, that his followers are saved and the bad guys are gonna get it, Jesus lives the wrong story. In that story when it came time to lay hands on Him He would have swung around, flapped open his oilskin slicker, drawn his trusty Ivory handled six-guns, mowed down the Clancy Brothers and rid out of town leaving behind one silver bullet and on the ears of the wind, a hearty "Hi-Ho Silver, Away".But Jesus is not some Masked Man. The power of the Jesus saga is that He is human.A God cannot be tempted, Jesus was. And Jesus resisted. And the message is "humans can resist evil".A God cannot be threated, Jesus was. And Jesus did not respond with more violence. And the message is "humans can try to find ways other than violence".A God cannot die, Jesus did. And Jesus rose from the dead. And the message is "all humans will rise from the dead".Just as I believe that we must be honest about the great Evil that Christians have done in the past and that Christians are doing now, I believe we must also be honest about what the message was.It is not that Christians are saved and everyone else is damned.It is that GOD gave us in the life of Jesus a clear lesson of what a human should do, and more importantly, can do.

Phat writes:That's what got Lucifer booted out in the first place.

jar writes:Why is your God any different than Ganesha or Thor or Ra or Jupiter or Raven or Coyote?

Phat writes:You conclude with a question rather than an answer.

Phat writes: Because I believe in Him and follow Him. I do not believe any of those other ones nor do I follow them. My God is uniquely my God.

Phat writes:Im not 100% convinced that I made Him up.

Dredge writes:What qualifies you to ask that?

Dredge writes:Is it not those inside the Church whom you are to judge? (1Cor 5:12)

Dredge writes:do not trust every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are of God By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not of God. This is the spirit of antichrist (1John 4:1-3)

jar writes:How is your belief any different than those of someone who follows Coyote or Raven or Thor or Ra or Ganesha or ...Isn't the only difference what YOU choose to believe?

Phat writes:I will, of course insist that all of the gods worshipped except mine are the counterfeits. And that will always get challenged.

jar writes:My beliefs are, surprisingly my beliefs and have been outlined at EvC in detail I do believe that Jesus is GOD, but while he was here on earth He was fully man, human, just like you, just like me.

ringo writes:You're always out of line to say somebody isn't a Christian. Judge not.

Dredge writes:How could God ‘de-God’ Himself and became a mere creature (the man, Jesus)? How could a creature (the man, Jesus) became God? The mind boggles.