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kofh2u Member (Idle past 4074 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
You have that backwards. "True" is only true within a given system. That's why black people tend to score poorly on "white" IQ tests - because what's "true" in the white culture is not necessarily true in theirs.
My claim remains that it is you who are backwards in every post because it is you who are wrongm, but who believes there is nothing soi sharply clear that a little argument can not cloud it up. Not every IQ Test is written.And such Tests that do not effectively measusre what is the True responses that one might make to them just fail to discern the Intelligence that exists. You own example of a marroned island make my point quite well.The puzzle of learnuing to exist presents the "questions" which will measure how intelligent the survivor/dead man was. The movie Pi is a good example here.
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Straggler Member (Idle past 320 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
There are many things which wouldn't get a single point on an IQ test but which manage to survive just fine.......
But what does any of this have to do with the topic of there being some sort of startling equivalence between concepts in Buddhism and those of modern physics?
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 4074 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
But what does any of this have to do with the topic of there being some sort of startling equivalence between concepts in Buddhism and those of modern physics?
I think it could not be avoided on a thread titled, "The God Hypothesis," since Christian said, "I am the truth, the way, and the life?" The argument that Gell-mann suggested a connection with religion also tends to bring us to examine how that might be intuitively suggested to him, though he assumed it was akin to Buddhism. But, if our God is Truth, as certainky our species seems to have been bowing down to it, then the Father of all Truth is the ever unfolding Reality which sires it in every Frame into the future. So, in this sense, The God Hypothesis is that Truth is our light into the world through the Science of Empiricism. But, it is also interesting to the theologian that Intuition has discovered a Pattern to our thinking which scripture also brings to our attention, in regard to the way the "tabernacle" where we meet this "god," or Truth resides:
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Eli Member (Idle past 3746 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
Your picture and whatever non sequitors attached to it have neither to do with Buddhism or physics.
Can you take your discussion with yourself elsewhere?
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 4074 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
Really? Was he? Where are you getting that from? I have read that Gell-Man's reference to Buddhism was intended as ironic.
Hmmm... The better insight that Gell-mann might have referred us to would have been the Jewish recognition of this pattern which the later Kabbalists used to represent their arrangement of the Great Name.
Perhaps Gell-mann was subtly referring o Judaism since he no doubt had a subliminal memory of having had seen this arrangement before, albeit, upside down?
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Eli Member (Idle past 3746 days) Posts: 274 Joined: |
Whay does that have to do with subject? You are just imagining some link between what you want to talk about and what the subject is.
Do you have any evidence of what you are claiming? Of course not. Go muse elsewhere. The things you imagine are not relevant to this thread.
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Straggler Member (Idle past 320 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
Kof writes: The argument that Gell-mann suggested a connection with religion...... What connection with religion are you suggesting? Be specific. Do you have anything beyond vague hand waving to support these assertions of yours? Anyway for what little it matters I'm pretty sure that Gell-Mann was an atheist.
quote: Murray Gell-Mann, Beauty and truth in physics: Murray Gell-Mann on TED.com (2007), Ted.com.
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Straggler Member (Idle past 320 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined:
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That is amazing. Let's sum up your latest findings in our handy comparison table:
The comparison is startling isn't it?
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 4074 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
Kof writes: The argument that Gell-mann suggested a connection with religion...... Strang:What connection with religion are you suggesting? The one which Gell-mann referred to..?
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Straggler Member (Idle past 320 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
The number 8?
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ringo Member (Idle past 666 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
kofh2u writes:
What if the castaway only thought that he was on an island but he was really on a peninsula and there was a four-lane super-highway only a day's march away. His lack of knowledge/understanding of the True Ultimate Ideal Reality would have no effect on how he lived his life in the reality that he thought he was in. The True Ultimate Ideal Reality is irrelevant to his reality.
You own example of a marroned island make my point quite well.
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 4074 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
E8 Lie algebra groups represent the best developed theory of continuous symmetry of mathematical objects and structures, which makes them indispensable tools for many parts of contemporary mathematics, as well as for modern theoretical physics. They provide a natural framework for analysing the continuous symmetries of differential equations.
Many times we recognize that the physical world can be described by the mathematical/logical intelligence inherent as one of our multiple intelligences.We use Logical/Mathematical Intelligence to understand the external world. Usually, we obeserve the external world and then develop the mathematics. What we see in the case of Gellmann is that the opposite or reverse condition prevailed.He used the inherent presence of this Mathematical Intelligence in order to better observe the external world. This triangulation of the physical conceptions we observe has been noted by others over the ages.In ancient times all of matter was assigned to the four elements. We now know most matter is baryonic matter. And we now know that the numbers of the particles of baryonic matter form a Tetractys! "The Tetractys represented the organization of space: 1. the first row represented zero-dimensions (a point) 2. the second row represented one-dimension (a line of two points) 3. the third row represented two-dimensions (a plane defined by a triangle of three points) 4. the fourth row represented three-dimensions (a tetrahedron defined by four points) Recall that the first four planes of existence: space-time, subatomic particles, atoms and molecules can each be symbolized by a point, line, triangle and tetrahedron. Again, this is an example of how the smallest part contains the whole." Spirituality, Dreams and Prophecy: The Universal Order of Design - the symmetry of matter The Kabbahists (to whom I referred, in that illustration of the whole pattern that seems to be required of us as organize our concept of the Real World such as in Chemistry and now Elemental Particle Physics) also expressed "the creator of the material world" this way:
Buck Fuller called this symbol "Truth:"
Then Christ in 32AD tells us he "is the Truth, the way, and the life."He also says that even the hairs on our head are numbered. What we are seeing in QM today is supporting evidence for this God Hypothesis that was suggested by the OP of this thread.
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 4074 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
The True Ultimate Ideal Reality is irrelevant to his reality. There is no "Ultimate Reality." There is only what actually exists, Reality. Everything else that we might form our own perceptions about is mere fantasy.
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 4074 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
Any God Hypothesis would have to redefine God outside of Mythological Constructs completely. The God Hypothesisthat states the Judaeo-Christian God Designed the Universe. In their God Hypothesis this "God" is a person. We must not confuse our conception of God, mathematically, with what god actually is.The Chgristians are right in telling us that we are not privy to a direct contact with Gad, the Father of the Cosmos. We must utilize an intermediator between our mind and what we can fathom of this God. The "God Hypothesis" I present here is that Truth, in the form of Mathematical/Logical insights is our mediator. Edited by kofh2u, : typo
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kofh2u Member (Idle past 4074 days) Posts: 1162 From: phila., PA Joined: |
The number 8?
Yep,...Eight (8) is the number of God: H+V+H+I = 5+6+5+10 = 26 = 2+6 = 8
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