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kofh2u
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Message 165 of 173 (704092)
08-03-2013 4:36 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by justatruthseeker
05-07-2013 10:34 AM


Pre=existing Energy was the source for the material Universe...

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According to the standard theory, our universe sprang into existence as "singularity" around 13.7 billion years ago. What is a "singularity" and where does it come from? Well, to be honest, we don't know for sure. Singularities are zones which defy our current understanding of physics. They are thought to exist at the core of "black holes." Black holes are areas of intense gravitational pressure. The pressure is thought to be so intense that finite matter is actually squished into infinite density (a mathematical concept which truly boggles the mind). These zones of infinite density are called "singularities." Our universe is thought to have begun as an infinitesimally small, infinitely hot, infinitely dense, something - a singularity. Where did it come from? We don't know. Why did it appear? We don't know.
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So in reality you have NO math to base anything on as relativity completely fails at your imaginary event horizon. Since it seems everyones theory is as good as another's at this point I would say the fact that the math breaks down should give you a clue something is not right in wonderland.

I don't need to express the points in those links, your scientists did it for me quite clearly.
http://www.nasa.gov/...n_pages/juno/multimedia/pia03155.html


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According to the standard theory, our universe sprang into existence as "singularity" around 13.7 billion years ago. What is a "singularity" and where does it come from?

Our universe is thought to have begun as an infinitesimally small, infinitely hot, infinitely dense, something - a singularity. Where did it come from? We don't know. Why did it appear? We don't know.
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Since it seems everyones theory is as good as another's at this point I would say the fact that the math breaks down should give you a clue something is not right in wonderland.

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The concept of Singularity simply means that at some point, we must stop explaining the process of the transformation from no material Universe into the sudden appearance of that material Universe.

There is a point where we do not know, and where we have no apparent way to gather evidence in order to assume, the earliest details of matter formation.

But it seems reasonable that we can say invisible, weightless, time independent, pre-existing pure Energy was where that matter and the accompanying necessary Space/time originated.
To be consistent, the Law of Conservation of Mass and Energy should more than hold before the BB, but indeed explain the source as Energy, which transformed according E = mC^2.

It is perhaps entertaining to try and make the mysterious source of beginnings akin to a cosmic intelligence, one that scripture would then be able say is imaged in human Consciousness.
To excuse such a leap on the grounds that science can not verify initial pre-existing Energy because of the missing details of the Singularity of that moment is like saying tow wrongs make a right.

The fault for this excursion into speculation can be set at the door of those scientist who have refused to apply the Law of Conservation.
Perhaps they fear the analogy between the mysterious nature of Energy which is defined only as an entity that can make things move, and the ineffable vagueness of what the Jews called "God" in their Western Epic of the Scriptures.

Nevertheless, the suggestion of a Cosmic Consciousness being supported by plasma generated electric currents seems improbable.


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kofh2u
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Message 168 of 173 (704099)
08-03-2013 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 167 by justatruthseeker
08-03-2013 5:06 PM


Re: Pre-existing Energy was the source for the material Universe...

No, a singularity is nothing more than a pinch in the plasma current streams. What you like to call dark matter.

I see the Singularity as that place we might imagine as the center of the universe where all matter would collect if we reversed the BB experience and returned along the same trajectories from whence the present matter originated in the great expansion we call the Big Bang.


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