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Panda
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Message 32 of 173 (698469)
05-07-2013 11:07 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by justatruthseeker
05-06-2013 7:57 PM


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{abe}Pipped at the post by CS.

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"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Message 44 of 173 (698639)
05-08-2013 2:23 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Dr Adequate
05-08-2013 1:37 PM


Dr. A writes:

This is why you can prove the correctness of your opinions with reference to: "a few hundred more links to mainstream books [...] by the very same people that then try to hide that fact".


But ... but ... that is the genius of it!

The best place to hide something is in plain sight - yes?
So you take the truth about plasma and you hide it in books and on the internet and on television.
No-one will be able to see that truth because it is under our very noses!
And this extensive proliferation and propagation of information is conclusive proof that scientists are trying to keep that information secret!!

Obviously.

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"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 50 of 173 (699769)
05-25-2013 8:13 AM
Reply to: Message 49 by NoNukes
05-25-2013 12:14 AM


Re: I know it's a wasted effort.
NN writes:

Arguing that a 'plastic sheet' does not give the same result is a completely nonsensical argument.


I thinks he believes General Relatively is wrong because space is not made of rubber.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 112 of 173 (700311)
06-01-2013 8:52 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by justatruthseeker
06-01-2013 8:24 PM


Re: Predictive Power
justatruthseeker writes:

The 4 that you say are colliding are further apart from each other (over 39 million ly apart from one another) because of redshift.


Red shift: THE most common cause of galactic separation.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Message 113 of 173 (700312)
06-01-2013 8:57 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by Son Goku
05-31-2013 12:03 PM


Re: What?
Son Goku writes:

Nobody has a phobia of electrical phenomena. We detect electromagnetic currents in space and they behave exactly as Maxwell's equations would predict.

They don't however cause gravity.


As I advised Percy; justatruthseeker is not interested in truth - it gets in the way of his opinions.
He only replies to insults.

{abe}
Oh, I get it now!
He is only just a truth-seeker - any less truth-seeking and he wouldn't qualify as a truth-seeker at all.

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Panda
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Message 116 of 173 (700337)
06-02-2013 10:03 AM
Reply to: Message 115 by justatruthseeker
06-02-2013 9:50 AM


Re: What?
justatruthseeker writes:

Still think it's a dirty snowball?
We have already seen the predictive power of mainstream theory. Zilch.


So - you don't know that we have sent a probe to an actual comet and looked?
quote:
80% water,
10% carbon monoxide
2.5% A mix of methane and ammonia.
Other hydrocarbons, iron, and sodium were detected in trace amounts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giotto_%28spacecraft%29

justatruthseeker writes:

Still think it's a dirty snowball?


Yup - looks like a reasonable metaphor to me.

You remind me of something someone once said:
"From those who can dismiss their own scientific results I expect nothing less than obfuscation."


"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 118 of 173 (700378)
06-02-2013 4:27 PM
Reply to: Message 117 by justatruthseeker
06-02-2013 3:25 PM


Re: What?
quote:
particularly Fred Whipple's "dirty snowball" model, which correctly predicted that Halley would be composed of a mixture of volatile ices – such as water, carbon dioxide and ammonia – and dust.
You see the part I highlighted?

Halley's Comet is a "dirty snowball": fact.
It is mainly comprised of "snow" and "dirt".
As tests have been done, the proportion of ice to dirt has fluctuated - but calling it a dirty snowball is still a reasonable metaphor. (You do know what a metaphor is, yes?)

Let's look at your own link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halley%27s_Comet

quote:
...these observations suggested that Halley was in fact predominantly composed of non-volatile materials, and thus more closely resembled a "snowy dirtball" than a "dirty snowball"

JATS writes:

Still think it's a dirty snowball?


Yes - it is still an accurate metaphor.

JATS writes:

We have already seen the predictive power of mainstream theory. Zilch.


It was predicted it would be "composed of a mixture of volatile ices – such as water, carbon dioxide and ammonia – and dust." - and low and behold! It was!!

I realise that you hate facts with a passion - but you really need to learn to accept reality.
"From those who can dismiss their own scientific results I expect nothing less than obfuscation."

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"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Message 120 of 173 (700388)
06-02-2013 6:03 PM
Reply to: Message 119 by justatruthseeker
06-02-2013 5:49 PM


Re: What?
JATZ writes:

it CAN NOT be an aggregates of material, it is ROCK.


Rocks can't be an aggregate of materials?
quote:
In geology, a rock is a naturally occurring solid aggregate of one or more minerals or mineraloids.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_%28geology%29

I think this makes your problem very clear.
You either do not know what 'aggregate' means or you do not know what a rock is - or possibly both.

I don't see how I can ever successfully communicate with you when you constantly use words that you do not understand.

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"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 125 of 173 (700445)
06-03-2013 9:09 AM
Reply to: Message 121 by justatruthseeker
06-02-2013 11:19 PM


Re: What?
JATS writes:

Irrelevant


So, you refuse to admit that you don't know what 'aggregate' means and you refuse to admit that your claim that (paraphrasing) "Rock is not an aggregate of materials" is wrong.
Not exactly something a truth-seeker would do, is it?

JATS writes:

Haley's comet was believed to be a loose aggregates of material, a dirty snowball.


Haley's comet was not believed to be a loose aggregate of material; a snowball is not a loose aggregate of material.

JATS writes:

The asteroids are NOT loose aggregates of material, they are solid, just as Deep Impact showed Temple 1 to be.


Yes - much like a snowball.

So - let's try and get you to finally learn something:
1) Rocks are an aggregate of materials.
2) Snowballs are an aggregate of materials.
3) Halley's comet is an aggregate of materials.
4) Halley's comet is not a loose aggregate of material.
5) A snowball is not a loose aggregate of material.

Which one of those do you think is false and why?

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"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 127 of 173 (700450)
06-03-2013 10:00 AM
Reply to: Message 126 by justatruthseeker
06-03-2013 9:19 AM


Re: What?
JATS writes:

Rock is NOT a "loose aggregate of materials" it is NOT a dirty snowball, what Whipple said Haley was and which all your theories said it was, and all your supposed evidence said it was.


Whipple did not say it was a "loose aggregate of materials"; a snowball is not a "loose aggregate of materials".
So - to put it bluntly - you are just plain wrong.

JATS writes:

it is a meteor, an asterpoid, there is no difference between the two.


Shall we add that to the list of words you don't know the meaning of?
Asteroid: "Asteroids are minor planets (small Solar System bodies and dwarf planets) that are not comets"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid

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"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 130 of 173 (700478)
06-03-2013 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by justatruthseeker
06-03-2013 2:01 PM


Re: Predictive Power
So - you are unable to defend even your most basic of claims.
Well, not much of a surprise tbh, since you don't even know what a rock or a snowball is.

JATS writes:

fools and idiots will no longer be replied to.


No no, we will continue to reply to you.

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"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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