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ringo
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Message 16 of 27 (694706)
03-27-2013 12:49 PM
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03-27-2013 12:31 PM


Re: Concepts Of Omni and Infinity
Phat writes:

One instant He could create such a rock. The next instant He himself could exceed the rock. In essence, the magnitude of the rock is Gods imagined magnitude of that moment.


I thought the party line was that God never changes.
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Message 17 of 27 (694708)
03-27-2013 1:06 PM
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03-27-2013 12:31 PM


God And The Rock
Well, the traditional answer (and in my view the correct one) to the paradox of God and the rock is that the omnipotence of God means that he can bring about any state of affairs not that he can make any sentence true. For example, according to the old joke, even God himself cannot make "two hills without a valley between them" --- if they had no valley between them, they'd be one hill. But this is not really a limit on his omnipotence, because the phrase "two hills without a valley between them" does not describe even a conceivable state of affairs.
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sunshaker
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Message 18 of 27 (694818)
03-29-2013 9:25 AM
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03-25-2013 7:44 AM


I extended the periodic table to contain everything which i see as Y,
If i then as i have, join two tables together i get X,

I realise Y contains everything, but the joinning of Y+Y results in both rebalancing, as shown at element 167/172 giving the god particle
2 8 8 18 18 32 32 18 18 8 8 2/1

Y+Y=X

X CONTAINS ALL POSSIBILITIES.

http://alphaomegadotme.files.wordpress.com/...anded11111.xls


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Message 19 of 27 (694822)
03-29-2013 10:33 AM
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03-27-2013 8:10 AM


I was being superfluous...when I said you guys don't like equations

I knew that. But that kind of knowledge won't stop me from having a little fun of my own.

Is coloical a typo? I cannot find this word in the dictionary.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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Message 20 of 27 (694823)
03-29-2013 10:35 AM
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03-29-2013 9:25 AM


I'm not clicking on any link to a buffoon's spreadsheet.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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Stile
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Message 21 of 27 (694837)
03-29-2013 11:53 AM
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03-29-2013 10:33 AM


Aren't Friday's Always Good?
NoNukes writes:

Is coloical a typo? I cannot find this word in the dictionary.

I believe he meant "colloquial."
Which is kind of the same sense as "laymen's terms" or "chatting with buddies" (I think... english is not me best sport).


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Message 22 of 27 (694846)
03-29-2013 2:31 PM
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Re: Aren't Friday's Always Good?
Aren't Friday's Always Good?

Not for Jesus...


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Message 23 of 27 (694847)
03-29-2013 2:43 PM
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03-29-2013 2:31 PM


Re: Aren't Friday's Always Good?
CS writes:

Aren't Friday's Always Good?

Not for Jesus...

Whaddya mean?

Didn't all his dreams come true?


"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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Message 24 of 27 (694848)
03-29-2013 2:45 PM
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03-29-2013 2:43 PM


Re: Aren't Friday's Always Good?
Seems if you're sweating blood then you're not really looking forward to it...
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Message 25 of 27 (694982)
03-31-2013 6:25 PM
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03-27-2013 1:06 PM


Re: God And The Rock
I do think God is even able to make "two hills without a valley between them", without them becoming just one hill. I don't know what that would be like, but I do know for God everything is possible. He can do miracles, which defy any physical law or any logic. I think if we try to understand God from our limited mind we end up reducing him and thinking he is not so great, but that is just because our own limitations. We can't logically explain how God is one but at the same time is Father and Son, but they both are one and the same. Not because we can't explain it means is false. it only means that is beyond our knowledge.

As for the equation, I would suggest giving numerical values to the variables X and Y. If according to the parameters X is the biggest thing possible I could only attribute to X an Infinite value. Y would be anything that is not God and can have any value. Let's say Y is 6

Infinite + 6 = Infinite

You can try giving Y any value and the result will be the same. God is the greatest, nothing can ad or reduce any value to Him


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Message 26 of 27 (694990)
03-31-2013 10:09 PM
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03-31-2013 6:25 PM


Re: God And The Rock
I do think God is even able to make "two hills without a valley between them", without them becoming just one hill. I don't know what that would be like, but I do know for God everything is possible.

Quite so, he's meant to be omnipotent. But I didn't say there were things he couldn't do: rather, there are sentences which, being meaningless, would never describe anything that he did.


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Message 27 of 27 (694991)
04-01-2013 12:33 AM
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03-31-2013 10:09 PM


Re: God And The Rock
Yeah, I understand your point. I just found the idea of the two hills without valley in between a good point to start my opinion. Regards
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