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Author Topic:   When is a belief system a Mental Disorder?
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Message 9 of 252 (286692)
02-14-2006 11:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by SuperNintendo Chalmers
02-14-2006 11:55 AM


I think that it is entirely possible that many of the more millitant 'crazies' listed above may in fact have a sociopathic difficulty, i don't think that having 'irrational' beliefs constitutes mental disorder. i think it would instead qualify as wittgensteinian 'mistakenness'.
any outside mental disorder may facilitate millitant reactions, but belief systems are not symptomatic of this i think. i have decided recently that i no longer believe that the dirty towelheads had anything to do with september 11 and it was instead perpetrated by the government a la reichstag. does this make me crazy? no. but it may be exemplary of the way my brain interprets information. this may be environmental or inherent.

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Message 11 of 252 (286694)
02-14-2006 11:25 PM
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02-14-2006 11:21 PM


Re: wittgensteinian ...
in the book 'on certainty', wittgenstein suggested that one may be 'mistaken' without being wrong. i think it has something to do with being intellectually distant.
honestly, i read the book five times and never quite got it.

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Message 25 of 252 (286830)
02-15-2006 10:07 AM
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02-15-2006 9:27 AM


The most standard Christian position is that we are not to heed ANYTHING but the word of God. God does "speak" to us but not as a voice, more as an impression on the conscience, and the God-taught conscience would condemn any impulse to murder.
but god has told people to kill in the past and you justify this. in fact, the word of god teaches us to kill many people. what makes him different now?

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Message 75 of 252 (287113)
02-15-2006 7:26 PM
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02-15-2006 6:57 PM


i'm beginning to doubt that the jesus reported had anything to do with the god of the bible and has now anything to do with the jesus currently worshipped in the christian church.
but that is off topic here.

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Message 77 of 252 (287132)
02-15-2006 8:39 PM
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02-15-2006 8:38 PM


this is still off topic. but. do defend your statements. i'm terribly curious.

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Message 85 of 252 (287598)
02-17-2006 10:32 AM
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02-15-2006 4:50 PM


Re: The problem identified?
source on those ceramic toys and sunken streets please?

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Message 218 of 252 (290975)
02-28-2006 12:01 AM


maybe not mental disorder, but when belief causes one to disrupt a board in such fashion, it is certainly detrimental to the public good.

  
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Message 219 of 252 (290976)
02-28-2006 12:05 AM
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02-26-2006 4:29 PM


Re: What struck me
i think he means something less significant than you think. our interpretation of reality greatly shades it. my distrust of the official explanation for 911 greatly shades my perception of reality and how i interpret the world around me. does it change the fact that i am typing on my computer or that i have a crappy job or that the other day an autistic kid died? no. does it change that hundreds of people are still dying in iraq? no. but it might change the why.

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