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Author Topic:   When is a belief system a Mental Disorder?
Trump won 
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Message 211 of 252 (290378)
02-25-2006 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by SuperNintendo Chalmers
02-17-2006 3:44 PM


Re: What struck me
Reality is subjective.

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Message 212 of 252 (290445)
02-25-2006 6:39 PM
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02-25-2006 1:58 PM


Re: What struck me
Reality is subjective.
What does that mean?

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Message 213 of 252 (290646)
02-26-2006 4:19 PM
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02-25-2006 6:39 PM


Re: What struck me
Through your perception you decide what reality is. Be it real, an illusion, a single step, half way, your entire existence, not a scratch on the surface...... etc

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Message 214 of 252 (290650)
02-26-2006 4:24 PM
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02-26-2006 4:19 PM


Deciding what is real?
When you get older try telling that to your creditors.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 215 of 252 (290651)
02-26-2006 4:29 PM
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02-26-2006 4:19 PM


Re: What struck me
Through your perception you decide what reality is.
It's reality that determines our perceptions, not the other way around.

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Message 216 of 252 (290754)
02-26-2006 10:17 PM
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02-26-2006 4:19 PM


Re: What struck me
oh come on are you saying we can through the power of our minds change reality? i mean i can believe with my mind that theres not a trailer-truck barreling down on me and poof it won't be there?

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Message 217 of 252 (290970)
02-27-2006 10:36 PM


I disagree.

  
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Message 218 of 252 (290975)
02-28-2006 12:01 AM


maybe not mental disorder, but when belief causes one to disrupt a board in such fashion, it is certainly detrimental to the public good.

  
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Message 219 of 252 (290976)
02-28-2006 12:05 AM
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02-26-2006 4:29 PM


Re: What struck me
i think he means something less significant than you think. our interpretation of reality greatly shades it. my distrust of the official explanation for 911 greatly shades my perception of reality and how i interpret the world around me. does it change the fact that i am typing on my computer or that i have a crappy job or that the other day an autistic kid died? no. does it change that hundreds of people are still dying in iraq? no. but it might change the why.

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Message 220 of 252 (291639)
03-02-2006 10:04 PM
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02-26-2006 10:17 PM


Re: What struck me
Very interesting. I wish we could do it. Then we will have no more enemies. HAHAHAHA!!!!No reality can never be changed by our beliefs and perceptions. Our beliefs have consequences for ourselves.

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Message 221 of 252 (292027)
03-04-2006 8:31 AM
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02-22-2006 3:51 PM


Re: what we find attractive
Hey, Crash, notice how Faith doesn't have a reply to our answers to her questions regarding why we want to eat certain foods?
Hmmm.

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Message 222 of 252 (292030)
03-04-2006 8:41 AM
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02-24-2006 10:55 AM


Re: Evo Psych = mental disorder?
quote:
If I say, "This woman is beautiful," maybe that's like saying, "This grass is green."
No.
Ideas of what is beautiful are MUCH, MUCH more variable.

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Message 223 of 252 (292549)
03-05-2006 10:47 PM
Reply to: Message 190 by Faith
02-22-2006 3:16 PM


Re: what we find attractive
Faith, you are right on. We all eat foods that are harmful. I do. There is something known as an appetite center in our brain. We all have appetites for some foods. This is known as "Cravings". This is lot more complex than what we tend to explain.The appetite centers are sensitive to certain neurotransmitters in blood which act as triggers.They in turn either stimulate or suppress our "Cravings"

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Message 224 of 252 (292924)
03-07-2006 9:28 AM
Reply to: Message 223 by inkorrekt
03-05-2006 10:47 PM


Re: what we find attractive
quote:
Faith, you are right on. We all eat foods that are harmful.
No food is "harmful" if it is actual real, wholesome food and not processed and filled with synthetics and chemicals.
It is the amount and ratio of particular foods eaten, compared with other environmental factors such as the amount of exercise, sleep, and stress we take in, that determine "harmfulness".
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I do. There is something known as an appetite center in our brain. We all have appetites for some foods. This is known as "Cravings". This is lot more complex than what we tend to explain.The appetite centers are sensitive to certain neurotransmitters in blood which act as triggers.They in turn either stimulate or suppress our "Cravings"
So, why do you suppose we have cravings for high-calorie (sugar and fat) foods?
Could it be that our evolutionary ancestors had a hard time getting enough calories to live, nourish young, and fight off disease, and so the individuals who liked fat and sugar, and who were able to eat lots of it and readily store extra fat for the lean times tended to reproduce more successfully and therefore their genes would be more likely to persist in the population?

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Message 225 of 252 (292928)
03-07-2006 9:55 AM
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03-04-2006 8:31 AM


Re: what we find attractive
Hey, Crash, notice how Faith doesn't have a reply to our answers to her questions regarding why we want to eat certain foods?
Huh? What are you making a big deal about?
As I recall you two gave the typical speculative plausible evo type answers and there is no objective answer to something that totally imaginative. I can dream up stuff too, but the difference is I don't call it science.
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