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Topic: UK's Thatcher, rot in hell . . .
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1531 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Message 3 of 149 (696470)
04-16-2013 11:34 AM
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speak ill of the dead?
I would say it is easier to look back in retrospect and criticize. It is quite another thing to be the one making the decisions when a decision needs to be made. Whats that old saying? History will judge. Dronestar we got it the first time, You do not like Margaret Thatcher or Ronald Regan. No need to belabor the point is there?
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1531 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Re: speak ill of the dead?
Hello Dr. Adequate, Do you feel the Ex-Priminister is deserved of the kind of vitriol dronestar is heaping?
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1531 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Message 11 of 149 (696483)
04-16-2013 12:33 PM
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Reply to: Message 7 by dronestar
04-16-2013 12:16 PM
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Re: speak ill of the dead?
Hi dronester,
dronester writes: That's a damn foolish thing to state . . .
All of your examples are fallicious reductio ad absurdium. So your argument is that Millions of people to include yourself, did not like Margaret Thatcher and she is deserves to be reviled for the atrocities she committed in the name of the 1%? Or is your point that it is less offensive to say rot in hell at a funeral than to sing ding dong the witch is dead? Either way it is a matter personal opinion not a point of contention. What ever blows your hair back.
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1531 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Message 18 of 149 (696490)
04-16-2013 12:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 15 by dronestar
04-16-2013 12:37 PM
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Re: speak ill of the dead?
Her funeral will cost the tax payers 10,000,000 dollars (are about). Should we discuss that after the service has ended?
Perhaps they should hang,draw and quarter her and pitch the heap in the Thames.
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1531 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Re: speak ill of the dead?
Fair enough. your point is well made. I will say that I do not wish to excuse Hitler, Stalin and Vlad. I do not feel Margaret Thatcher is in the same league as those. I still feel saying rot in hell and the like at a funeral is in poor taste.
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1531 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Message 26 of 149 (696500)
04-16-2013 12:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 21 by dronestar
04-16-2013 12:48 PM
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Re: speak ill of the dead?
To the people whose livielihood, health, and lives she negatively affected, no, is is not JUST a point of contention.
Try to look at it from the victim's point of view. What would give you satisfaction?
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1531 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Re: speak ill of the dead?
Dr. Adequate writes: Quite. But that would have to be argued, you can't just produce a general argument that we can't judge decision-makers. Your right. And I did just that. I knew when I posted it that it was going to be ripped. I knew in my mind what I meant. (Ha ha) Have you ever been in a position that required your leadership and decisions that would affect many for good or bad. And if so how did you square that with accomplishing the mission when doing so would have ill effects on some people? Just curious.
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1531 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Message 35 of 149 (696512)
04-16-2013 1:35 PM
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Reply to: Message 29 by dronestar
04-16-2013 1:02 PM
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Re: speak ill of the dead?
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1531 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Message 48 of 149 (696530)
04-16-2013 4:28 PM
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Reply to: Message 47 by Rahvin
04-16-2013 4:20 PM
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Re: Frothing at the mouth doesn't help anyone.
Hi Rahvin, You are living proof of the humanity, compassion and integrity to be found in atheism.
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1531 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Message 99 of 149 (696725)
04-18-2013 1:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 98 by dronestar
04-18-2013 1:00 PM
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And two more Clintons. 
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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