29% of UK teachers favor teaching creationism

I do wonder why these percentages should really surprise anyone: non science teachers know about as much about science as any other university graduate.What does an English teacher typically know about science? No more than any non science bod I would imagine.That said teaching ID as part of the scientific method (and how it is not a workable method) would be a valuable part of teaching the scientific methodology.The UK education system is geared towards diversity (in comprehensive schools) and the teaching of creationism would raise the question 'which one?'One big difference to America (in terms of religion) is that (apart from the shouting man near the recycling bottle bank in the town car park) most people keep their religious views to themselves and it is only a narrow band of people who would attempt to push creationism.That said, faith schools might not like it but they have to teach evolution. My girlfriend went to a catholic faith school and was told by her biology teacher that she (the teacher) did not believe in evolution but they had better learn it or they would fail any exam with evolution as a question in it.She went on to say that one of her school chums wrote in the exam 'I don't believe in evolution' and went on to fail the exam and did not get her entry grades for university.Chalk one scalp up to religious ignorance.

It's a well made point to say Brits just don't talk about religion that much.I'm absolutely forbidden to talk about religion if I'm at any kind of social function because it's just not done.

I can see where you are comming from but as a Brit it seems clear to me that the average C of E xian is definitely NOT a True Christian.They know very little about what the Bible actually says and think that by being generally nice you are being Christian. They go to church and sing the songs and give to charity and love Jesus very much but that is about it. There seems to be no in group identification as Christians.My mum in law is a prime example: church on Sunday, charity work, generally nice but does not particularly self identify as 'Christian first'.I think that self identifying as 'Christian first' is very much on the decline in the UK so even if you exhibit Christan behaviour you still are not being a 'proper' Christian because they are just 'going through the motions' because it feels good.When I was growing up hardly any of my school chums were religious because it (Christianity) was so watered down, soft and woolly that you would get called 'gay' (as in girly).Christianity in the UK is a sanitised, anaemic relgion that has no kudos for many under the age of 40. It's just not cool and there is no social cache in professing xian beliefs so no one does. Out of sight out of mind.As a non religious type I like this state of affairs as xianity seems to be quietly dying out as the believers grow older and die off with fewer and fewer replacements each year (similar to what may happen to the GOP as the angry old white men die off).I think part of the problem is that the C of E has tried to mould itself to a changing society but has by doing so it has ceased to be actual Christianity (warts and all) and became an airy fairy religion that no longer has the charisma to pull in adherents.

This site is chock full of True Christian values.

Yeah, but isn't their shtick to be the exact opposite of pew warmers? To literally be True Christians who really do follow the Bible in it's entirety.This raises the question whether there is a continuum of adhearance to the Bible's teachings for people who claim to be Christians.The Westboro Baptist's espoused view seem hardly different from Landover Baptist's. Can you point to a difference in what the say? I think this is an issue for many people in the UK. Being a devout Christian is looked on as a eccentricity to be ruefully tolerated (similar to an obsessive interest).I wonder if many Brits see practicing Christians the same way an American would see a Westboro Baptist (as in a bit of a loony).I think it's far more cultural acceptable to go on about religion in the US than it is in the UK (reading back what I just wrote using the term 'go on' in a prejoritive sense displays my cultural bias clearly).Over here it is just not done: it's a conversation killer. It signals awkward silences untill the subject is changed.

They are disgusting, no doubt. But is their theology flawed? The Bible tells us a member of the LGB community should be killed. Obviously that is a morally reprehensible position but what is the theological logic to ignore that statute, like many people who purport to be Christian do?This is the case in the UK where the nasty bits of the Bible are ignored to get 'bums on pews'.

True but the idea is that she was to 'sin no more' but her previous exploits are wiped clean. The alternative idea is that she could go on with her adultery but being saved she would not need to be killed. The Law still stands but Jesus effectively pardoned her.This conundrum is an example of what we don't talk about, here. We quietly ignore religious belief and it is considered improper to say to a believer: 'your beliefs are internally inconsistent'.My wife tells me off at social occasions.

I think the point he was making is that the original culture of Canada and Australia was demolished and that saying this was a good thing as you implied does not make sense.

Are you mistaking the white settlers who came to an accord with the Crown for the indigenous peoples who's societies were smashed to bits?ABE: sorry, miss read your last post and are not making the above mistake. My appologies.Edited by Larni, : No reason given.

What makes you conclude that?

What examples of the lowering of UK morals can you provide to support your conclusions?Edited by Larni, : No reason given.

Why are you so obsessed with sexual promiscuity? You're like a dog with a bone.