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Author Topic:   My Beliefs- GDR
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Message 227 of 1324 (700485)
06-03-2013 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 225 by ringo
06-03-2013 2:27 PM


Ringo writes:
Crucifixion was a deliberately slow form of execution. If Jesus died that quickly, the Romans failed in their purpose.
Maybe the soldiers had some hot dates that night. Or perhaps they had so many cruxifixions scheduled they needed the cross sooner than later. Lumber was at a all time scarcity since Rome came to town with their cruxifixion practices.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 553 of 1324 (701825)
06-26-2013 2:57 PM
Reply to: Message 550 by Tangle
06-26-2013 2:45 PM


Re: Read more science, less apologetics
Tangle,
My dear sweet mother was sending money to a tel-evangalist.
I told her that the guy was swindling her and millions of others of their hard earned money.
To which she replied, It is not a question of what they do with the money, but that she gave.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 556 of 1324 (701830)
06-26-2013 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 555 by Tangle
06-26-2013 3:06 PM


Re: Read more science, less apologetics
I'm for you sir. I have given up trying to explain to dyed in the wool believers that some shit dont add up. Like the Trinity for example. 1+1+1=1
I haven't come out and stated "I do not believe in God."
But that is because I am afraid he might exist and smite me.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 561 of 1324 (701843)
06-26-2013 6:01 PM
Reply to: Message 560 by GDR
06-26-2013 5:38 PM


Re: Read more science, less apologetics
Hi GDR,
I always thought that the point of the first council of Nicea was to hammer out once and for all:
Jesus is one with the Father same substance.
This was because Bishop Arias was teaching that Jesus was not.
The church had to perserve the idea of a one God and not the worship of 3 gods. Which would make early Christians pantheist.
So the Nicean creed was putting this concept to rest.
aka the Catholic profesion of faith.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 576 of 1324 (701867)
06-27-2013 10:06 AM
Reply to: Message 562 by GDR
06-26-2013 6:57 PM


Re: Read more science, less apologetics
Hi GDR,
I respect your beliefs.
That is why you labled this thread"My Beliefs"
We all believe things, we must to function in this world. Everything just about is taken on faith because we can not possiby verify every single fact.
The difference I think is that some people choose to believe things simply because that is what they want to do. They want to believe and therefore they do, dispite anything to the contrary. It gives them sense of comfort, belonging and fellowship. It is deeply rooted in tradition and the past and gives promise for the future.
It is a matter of personal choice to believe or not to believe.
Evidence or no evidence, that makes no difference it seems.
All that matters is what one feels inside.
Otherwise one can become conflicted.
I leave you with the words of Polonius from Hamlet.
"To thine ownself be true."

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 753 of 1324 (703604)
07-25-2013 4:45 PM
Reply to: Message 749 by Stile
07-25-2013 1:44 PM


Re: Why atheists are moral
If all you want is something "so complex" that no one understands it yet... you already have it, but it's still natural.
You mean to tell me women are natural? Whoa.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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