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jar
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Message 39 of 1324 (698675)
05-08-2013 7:12 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Faith
05-08-2013 6:58 PM


Re: The Gospel Message
Faith writes:
GDR writes:
In one way, I suppose you can say His death paid for our sins, although frankly I’m not even sure what that means.
There are many places in scripture that are very clear what it means, but i've decided not to post them here. If anyone would like to know what they are I'd be happy to quote them in a private message or email.
If that is true then God is just a fool.
Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

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jar
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Message 53 of 1324 (698774)
05-09-2013 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Tangle
05-09-2013 1:00 PM


Re: The Gospel Message
Tangle writes:
If religion isn't required to get me a happy afterlife and it's not required to motivate me to try to make the world a better place and live a decent life, just why is it needed at all?
It may not be required for you.
What is your point?

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jar
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Message 55 of 1324 (698783)
05-09-2013 1:51 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Tangle
05-09-2013 1:14 PM


Re: The Gospel Message
Tangle writes:
jar writes:
It may not be required for you.
Self evidently
What is your point?
That religion isn't necessary for GDR (or anyone else) to lead a good life, do good things and get into heaven.
okay. If that is your belief then fine. You are of course welcome to your beliefs.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 58 of 1324 (698786)
05-09-2013 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by Tangle
05-09-2013 2:15 PM


Re: The Gospel Message
If GDR requires it then it is neither worthless or unneeded.

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jar
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Message 80 of 1324 (698916)
05-10-2013 2:42 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by New Cat's Eye
05-10-2013 2:23 PM


intended consequences
We need to remember that a living cell may not even be an intended consequence and looking at the available evidence, humans almost certainly were not an intended consequence.

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jar
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Message 120 of 1324 (699172)
05-15-2013 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 119 by GDR
05-15-2013 12:19 PM


sentience needed?
GDR writes:
CS writes:
Regarding the emergence of life, itself, the environment was radically different and there weren't already living organisms to exploit the proto-lifes that would be gradually emerging. The ones that are emerging today are quickly getting gobbled up.
If you're asking why we haven't seen it in the lab, that's just because we haven't gotten there yet. But we will one day.
Actually I was talking about it happening in nature. The example you used for the emergence of new cells from inorganic materials does require the pre-existence of cellular life though.
It does seem to me that when it is done in a lab it will be an example that it took sentient life to make it happen.
Why would you think that?
If I make ice in my freezer does that mean it takes sentience to freeze the pond?
Does it take sentience to make new cells for your body?
And we really have absolutely no way of knowing whether new forms of life are being created even today. The problem is that any new forms of life created today must immediately compete with all those forms of evolved living stuff existing today that have had billions of years of selection for critters that are really good at eating.

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jar
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Message 125 of 1324 (699190)
05-15-2013 5:06 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by GDR
05-15-2013 5:03 PM


Re: sentience needed?
But nature does it without a freezer.
No, it does not take sentience to bring about the process that new cells are formed and yes, we do make new cell, constantly.

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Message 140 of 1324 (699264)
05-16-2013 12:38 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by Faith
05-16-2013 12:35 PM


Re: The Gospel Message
If that's your gospel it's pretty much worthless.

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jar
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Message 258 of 1324 (700791)
06-07-2013 9:17 AM
Reply to: Message 255 by Faith
06-07-2013 7:41 AM


The Bible says God is not needed.
When it comes to proper behavior, morality, laws, justice, right and wrong the Bible says that God says we don't need God or Moses or Jesus or even the Bible.

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jar
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Message 260 of 1324 (700794)
06-07-2013 9:24 AM
Reply to: Message 259 by Faith
06-07-2013 9:20 AM


Re: The Bible says God is not needed.
What does that have to do with what I said?

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jar
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Message 367 of 1324 (701361)
06-17-2013 8:32 PM
Reply to: Message 366 by Faith
06-17-2013 8:24 PM


Re: Eyewitnesses to Jesus
The Talmud reference is a great example of the total dishonesty of Bible apologists.
First one must understand that Talmudic discourse is expressed as examples, fiction, "What if .." As is so often the case those claiming Talmudic support of the historical nature of Jesus is simply a liar and misrepresenting the Talmud just like they misrepresent the Bible. It's pitiful.

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jar
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Message 369 of 1324 (701363)
06-17-2013 9:24 PM
Reply to: Message 368 by Faith
06-17-2013 9:01 PM


Re: Eyewitnesses to Jesus
You should read the Talmud Faith, although I seriously doubt you are any more able to read the Talmud than it seems you are capable of actually reading the bible.
It neither confirms nor discredits Jesus. It simply uses the name in a Talmudic debate totally unrelated to the existence or non existence of Jesus.
Remember Faith, some of us here have actually read both the Bible and the Talmud.

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jar
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Message 371 of 1324 (701365)
06-17-2013 9:31 PM
Reply to: Message 370 by Faith
06-17-2013 9:27 PM


Re: Eyewitnesses to Jesus
So go read it Faith, give it a try. Forget what you've been told and actually read the source.
Stop believing what you've been told and learn the truth.

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jar
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Message 468 of 1324 (701654)
06-23-2013 9:14 AM
Reply to: Message 467 by Faith
06-23-2013 8:38 AM


another proof Faith markets an evil god.
Faith writes:
Disasters and calamities are God's judgments for sins and crimes.
Sorry Faith but that is just another example of how vile and evil the god you try to market is.
The god you try to market is worthy only of contempt or derision and must be opposed by any honest moral entity.
Disasters and calamities are not discreet and effect both the sinner and the innocent, the criminal and the blameless. For disasters and calamities to be God's judgments for sins and crimes the god must be ignorant, immoral, without empathy, evil, inept and incapable of reasonable action.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 483 of 1324 (701678)
06-23-2013 8:05 PM
Reply to: Message 480 by Faith
06-23-2013 5:36 PM


Faith lies yet again.
Faith writes:
Amazing. So many here consider it "vile and evil" that sin be punished, apparently believing that liars, thieves, adulterers, murderers, rapists, torturers, should be free from punishment. Remarkable.
I see the best you can do is simply to continue lying. Whenever someone points out that you are marketing a vile, evil and immoral god your response is to lie and misrepresent what other people have posted.
How pitiful.

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