I've backtracked a fair way into this thread, and I got lost following the equivocation serpent biting his tail.
This is the woo woo universe, the one I can see, touch, feel, taste, hear, smell, wonder at...and it's got all the woo woo I need.
If it is empirical, not only can two people agree on its detection--so can instrumentation. Otherwise, empirical only means whatever any two madmen can agree they see.
And that's not what it means.
Real things always push back.-William James
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