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This spirit thing has come up a few times from yourself and faith. When, I get time later, I will point out on numerous occasions where bad spirits are coming from god.
It's hypocritical to suggest some inner spirit results in goodness or closer to god type behaviour when god in the bible is responsible for more bad spirits than any other ( like the devil for example). God causes way more and indeed most bad spirits.

That is a demonstrable statement. Perhaps pick one passage or book and show it's factual. Simply prove it.( as True Christian suggests we can grant the " laws" as non- fiction even if they may all not be. But I'll give you those)

The bible mentions evil spirits a few times. The cause is unknown or from god. I have never found an evil spirit from the devil. ( Which would be the natural answer from a Christian)
Here are god caused evil spirits Judges 9:23, 1 Samuel 16:14-16,23, 18:10So my question would be where did the good spirit injection come from? The bad spirit injections are coming from god?

I agree applying a strict fact or myth to a specific statement in the bible is meaningless. That was a screwed up thought on my part. You could make Harry Potter non- fiction that way.
From the same book Proverbs:
12:21 There shall no evil happen to the just: but the wicked shall be filled with mischief16:33 The lot is cast into the lap, but it's every decision is from The Lord28:21-22. To have respect of persons is not good, for for a piece of bread that man will transgressFor every good passage you can quote, there is an absurd one to counter.

It does not make sense to me to read a book, purportedly god inspired and have to pick and choose what is good and what is bad. Or what is myth and what isn't. That, to me, is trying to make sense out of a book that doesn't make sense on it's own merit. One can apply the same logic to lessons learned in Harry Potter and it's guide to morality.
The bible fails on content. If a guy wrote down all the good stuff in the bible, one would have a very narrow book. If a guy wrote all the bad or stupid or absurd or contradictory stuff... the book would be thick.

I prefer, not necessarily authentic but fiction anyway.)))))

Phat, I give myself the responsibility. I can't use the Christian crutch of praying for forgiveness ( which in my experience is always given))) , I own my behaviour and consequences of such.
So I have the responsibility and the " charge" and no crutch.
Treat people the way you want to be treated works well, even if it didn't make the 10C.

You don't believe this because science disproves it. What do you do for the majority of the bible that isn't testable by science?
You shouldn't need science to determine fact or myth, in a book that implies complete and total truth.
Which of these absurdities are fact
2 Kg 2:23-24. God sends two bears to kill 42 kids for teasing a prophet about a bald headSodom/GomorrahNumbers 16:49 god kills 14,700 for complaining about his killings2 Chronicles 14:9-14 God slew a million Ethiopians in either God's biggest mass murder in the bible or maybe second to the flood. The boys snuck this massacre in the bible with little fan fare.Number 31:1-35. Midianite massacre where the boys keep the virgins for themselves to rape.I can do this type of psychopathic absurdity stuff all day with the bible. How does one determine fact from fiction, if we can't test the claims, when many/ most testable claims in the bible turn out false?

But there you going doing it. Trying to rationalize. Of course god did it, according to the bible.
Why can't you just say that stuff is outrageously stupid. Maybe god didn't send 2 bears to kill 42 kids. Well who did?
I mean come on, it's disingenuous trying to defend this stuff. It simply didn't happen none of those passages happened. Rather than say maybe god didn't do, why can't we say it's myth and none of it happened.

Jar,
The problem is most, by a long shot, of Christians are in the Cult of Ignorance. They, the Christian cult of ignorance, say the bible is truth. Sometimes complete and total truth. Sometimes partial truth and they are uniquely able to determine which parts are true.
I mean we see that right here on this thread with a number of posters.

There is no evidence outside the bible. There is evidence of Christians existing. There is a particular lack of evidence actually.
Your evidence is the bible. Which is not evidence.
You need evidence outside the bible for virgin birth, miracles and resurrection ( which are not unique anyway, as the list of non-existent gods doing the same is long. You think an actual god might find repeating other myths, but claiming these ones are real, not that persuasive)

What complete nonsense. Of course claims like virgin birth, miracles and resurrection require strong evidence. The bible itself contradicts itself in all those areas itself. Nobody would believe anything today claimed like that without some damn strong evidence. You get some ancient superstitious people, who never witnessed a thing they wrote about and riddle it with contradiction and believe it. That's absurdity. I already posted on here god is inserting the evil spirits not the devil. Perhaps you have been inserted with one and the message is... Believe bunk.

No, I completely get it.
I don't think you even believe what you write. One can not read about the bears mauling kids because they teased a prophet for having a bald head ( I mean you'd have a hard time saying that with a straight face), and not know god must have done it.And if you want to seriously contemplate the 2 bear attack and 42 mauled.
You can google and find in the history of bear mauling they have never mauled a group larger than 9. So 42 mauled requires some god guidance because it's never naturally occurred.
But that would be taking it seriously

Well the bible is riddled with outright errors, contradiction and absurdity. So it certainly has fault.
The " truth" is not what the words say. One has to " interpret" where it may be right. The only way that can be done is by knowing history outside the bible. The bible can not be trusted. So maybe I could learn the basics, but I wouldn't accept anything from the bible without outside support. ( and that is the inherent bible issue)

That is amazing. You managed to not say one accurate thing in that entire paragraph. I'd go through all the superstitious in the bible if I thought it would matter, but it wouldn't. But you could start by studying Jonah and the whale and figure out what " casting lots" means in that story and why it's such a classic example of ancient superstition universally believed at the time. Then ask yourself why the character Jesus believes the tale.
Oh, there are no eye witness writers. If there were, it still wouldn't matter. You can interview people right now who have been abducted by aliens. You need outside evidence as fantastic claims need proof beyond the writings of superstitious people.Edited by Golffly, : Added point