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Percy
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Message 5 of 12 (699797)
05-25-2013 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by NoNukes
05-25-2013 2:23 PM


Bu once the patent application is filed aren't public announcements protected? "Patent pending" and all that? Isn't the only risk that the patent might not eventually be granted, which seems terribly unlikely for a device like this, though of course I agree with Tangle that it's total bollocks.

This reminds me of a very recent little dust-up that just happened. A couple days ago The Guardian published this:

Eric Weinstein may have found the answer to physics' biggest problems

It was immediately questioned, primarily because of the way the "breakthrough" was handled:

Dear Guardian: You’ve Been Played

This relatively brief comment from New Scientist is also good:

Weinstein's theory of everything is probably nothing

I think"shenanigans" was an appropriate adjective, and dramatic scientific breakthroughs are rarely if ever dressed in shenanigans.

--Percy


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Message 8 of 12 (699803)
05-25-2013 4:37 PM
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05-25-2013 4:24 PM


NoNukes writes:

In what way are you suggesting that public announcements are protected? I'm not sure I understand your proposition. I'm guessing you are suggesting that we cannot exploit revealed technology once an application is filed. But that's not correct. The patent won't affect uses that occur before the patent issues (with some exceptions only applicable in the US).

I'm only asking, not claiming I know anything for certain. I'm only familiar with US law, and only what I learned in the class that one of the company's attorneys gave (he covered trade secrets, too) combined with the established practices that we have to follow. We don't disclose to customers (which we're told constitutes a public disclosure) until after we've filed the patent application. Because of this practice I assumed that any uses of our invention were protected after the application was filed, else we would have had to wait until after the patent was granted before disclosing to customers.

I think it would be extraordinarily difficult to get a patent for cold fusion through the US patent office because the PTO is predisposed to believe that cold fusion is as bollocks as perpetual motion.

Yeah, the analogy to perpetual motion machines occurred to me, too.

--Percy


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