Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

I found this thread interesting, the OP certainly provokes real thought. So, congratulations on that, GIA. As a result, I'm going to use it as a vehicle to promote the straight no-shit Gospel, and we will see who can tolerate it. The ProsecutionGod, being omniscient, omnipotent. privy to the future by predestination or similar means, and allegedly good, went ahead and created us, even though he knew damn well what we were going to do. He did this for his own reasons, which he felt were worth pursuing, and this makes the whole thing worse, not better; because it's premeditated. He doesn't even try to cover it up This makes him primarily responsible for all our sins whatsoever, in the same way that a mafia boss is responsible for the actions of all his subordinates; and puts us in a position to make a deal with the prosecution in which we can be absolved of any crime we confess to in the course of assisting in setting up the real criminal mastermind. Yeah? The DefenseGod pled "No Contest" to these charges in a Roman court having proper jurisdiction almost 2000 years ago, thereby clearing out records permanently. He was duly sentenced, executed rather brutally by a combination of flaying, impaling, and poisoning, and has been dead ever since. He died for our sins.He occasionally appears as a Ghost, usually to disciples who have been drinking wine in hidden rooms for days, marching in hot sunlight, or eating mushrooms on abandoned islands. When he does arrive, he uniformly supports this doctrine, that all your sins are forgiven and you can fucking stop bothering him about them.Go on about your business, mankind; there's nothing more to see here.

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Edited by Iblis, : god is dead / he died for you / you should be glad / you will be too

I see the question of "originality" has reared its lovely head again Whenever this happens, I like to drag out an old gimmick known in the racket as Socrates Is Praying For Icewater and, ask a little question ... WHO WAS THE FIRST LIAR?To resolve this quandary, we should look at the oldest case we have on record where two characters made statements which disagreed radically with one another; and then look at what the actual outcome was to see who wasn't telling the truth. Yeah? Exhibit 1Exhibit 2Exhibit 3AppendixSo, you be the judge. . . .Extra credit: If there be any mathematicians amongst you, let them form an opinion as to how and why Methuselah died

Yeah, I'm intimately familiar with your little chimera.But I want so much more, brother. I want to see Faith's spiritual death and St. Peter's Thousand Year Day and maybe even Lucifer's Flood, getting the walkabout they deserve. None of that seems likely to happen now, it's all you. And that makes me sad.Seeing as how we are still at it though go ahead and give your explanation of what's up with these genealogies. Yeah?

Well, the proof is in the pudding, isn't it.Do the people who responded in this thread, with defenses of the deicide doctrine, turn out to be egomaniacs or not?I know I'm an arrogant piece of shit, and I only "believe" for purposes of philosophical modeling.How about Icant? Anything grand about those, delusions?How about Faith? Seem like there's no way that neck should be capable of holding up, that head?Chime in, everyone. Did those who think, god died for them, turn out to be, e go tist i cal ???

You know, when I was a kid my mom used to sayIf "everybody" goes jumping off a bridge, that doesn't mean you can !!!And that's why I didn't get to be in the Mountain Dew commercial ...

I was trying to make my point softly, ma'am. I will know better.Just about all cultures have at one time or another embraced institutionalized rape, torture, sodomy, and murder. Just about all cultures have for long periods treated women as less than slaves. Just about all cultures have persecuted Christians and Jews and sub-Saharan Africans. Just about all cultures have had wildly wrong ideas about natural law and cause and effect.Some of us are growing out of it, though.

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Any JW's in this fight, to stand up for the bible vs hell?

Holy christ, someone who can read.