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Message 121 of 128 (809048)
05-15-2017 4:21 PM
Reply to: Message 120 by Tangle
05-15-2017 3:51 PM


Re: ULTIMATE LIST of Problems that Evolutionary theory has failed to solve
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Message 122 of 128 (809142)
05-16-2017 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by celestialGyoud
05-15-2017 2:56 PM


Re: ULTIMATE LIST of Problems that Evolutionary theory has failed to solve
celestialGyoud writes:

. bring up your list of problems that evolutionary theory has failed to solve . .


Problems that a theory can not solve YET are not a reason to call a theory obsolete.
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Message 123 of 128 (809176)
05-16-2017 5:09 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by ringo
05-16-2017 12:07 PM


Re: ULTIMATE LIST of Problems that Evolutionary theory has failed to solve
There are four different reasons why your theory becomes obsolete,

and one of those reasons is that if there were Humans multiplying on this Earth 34,000 years ago then it would have taken several global exterminations of Humans occuring every five thousand years interval, because that is the only way the Human population would have reached 10 to 15 million people (10 thousand years ago) rather than 5,5 billion people.

Actually the reason why Evolutionary theory in regards to Human origins is not declared obsolete is because money speaks louder than Math.

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Message 124 of 128 (809178)
05-16-2017 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by celestialGyoud
05-16-2017 5:09 PM


Re: ULTIMATE LIST of Problems that Evolutionary theory has failed to solve
Actually the reason why Evolutionary theory in regards to Human origins is not declared obsolete is because money speaks louder than Math.

Yep, every time they tried to declare it obsolete I ponied up $25 to keep it afloat.


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Message 125 of 128 (809180)
05-16-2017 5:26 PM
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05-16-2017 5:09 PM


Re: ULTIMATE LIST of Problems that Evolutionary theory has failed to solve
and one of those reasons is that if there were Humans multiplying on this Earth 34,000 years ago then it would have taken several global exterminations of Humans occuring every five thousand years interval, because that is the only way the Human population would have reached 10 to 15 million people (10 thousand years ago) rather than 5,5 billion people.

What growth rate are you falsely assuming for the human population over that period, and why are you ignoring the fact that it's known to be wrong?


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Message 126 of 128 (809181)
05-16-2017 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by celestialGyoud
05-16-2017 5:09 PM


Re: ULTIMATE LIST of Problems that Evolutionary theory has failed to solve
celestialGyoud writes:

There are four different reasons why your theory becomes obsolete,
and one of those reasons is that if there were Humans multiplying on this Earth 34,000 years ago then it would have taken several global exterminations of Humans occuring every five thousand years interval, because that is the only way the Human population would have reached 10 to 15 million people (10 thousand years ago) rather than 5,5 billion people.

The theory of evolution is not obsolete because it figured out a long time ago that birth rates and infant mortality for humans were quite different in the past.


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Message 127 of 128 (809201)
05-17-2017 12:35 AM
Reply to: Message 123 by celestialGyoud
05-16-2017 5:09 PM


your math argument is just as invalid as 4 years ago
and one of those reasons is that if there were Humans multiplying on this Earth 34,000 years ago then it would have taken several global exterminations of Humans occuring every five thousand years interval, because that is the only way the Human population would have reached 10 to 15 million people (10 thousand years ago) rather than 5,5 billion people.

As I've told you before CrazyDiamond7 (see Message 35), math cannot change reality, so if your math calculations result in something that doesn't match reality it is your math that is at fault. Usually a missed assumption.

Curiously it was the fact that animal populations did not increase to massive numbers (Malthusian formulas apply to all living species) is what gave both Darwin and Wallace the inspiration for natural selection eliminating those less adapted to their ecologies.

And, humans seem particularly well adapted to culling their own populations with on going wars ...

So you argument is invalid, because it ain't real. It was invalid 4 years ago, and time has not changed that.

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Message 128 of 128 (809265)
05-17-2017 3:10 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by celestialGyoud
05-16-2017 5:09 PM


Re: ULTIMATE LIST of Problems that Evolutionary theory has failed to solve
celestialGyoud writes:

... if there were Humans multiplying on this Earth 34,000 years ago then it would have taken several global exterminations of Humans occuring every five thousand years interval, because that is the only way the Human population would have reached 10 to 15 million people (10 thousand years ago) rather than 5,5 billion people.


You don't need global exterminations to limit population growth. All you need is a death rate near the birth rate. Unless you know what the birth and death rates were on a day-to-day basis in the past, your calculation is just garbage in, garbage out.
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