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Coyote
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Message 7 of 177 (702295)
07-03-2013 8:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by yenmor
07-02-2013 7:56 PM


Seismic waves
It would seem that the pattern of various seismic waves would suggest that a hollow earth is extremely unlikely.

http://www.astronomynotes.com/solarsys/s8.htm

Note the illustration of S and P waves at the above website.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers


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Message 9 of 177 (702298)
07-03-2013 9:43 PM
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07-03-2013 9:30 PM


Re: Seismic waves
I'm really not interested in what internet cranks have to say.

If they have the "theory-to-end-all-theories" they should submit it to peer-reviewed journals, where the real stuff hangs out.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers


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Message 14 of 177 (702309)
07-04-2013 1:33 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by NoNukes
07-04-2013 1:27 AM


Re: Take 2
"This business will get out of control! It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it!"
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Message 38 of 177 (702389)
07-05-2013 12:04 PM
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07-05-2013 9:03 AM


Re: Hollow Man
I can't think of a movie that involves a hollow earth with simply nothing there... could possibly make for an interesting disaster movie?

A Dyson sphere?


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Message 59 of 177 (702435)
07-05-2013 9:29 PM
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07-05-2013 9:15 PM


Science fiction...
Science fiction is traditionally based on sound science.

Many such works, however, extrapolate into the future. An example would be the so-called "double-talk" drive that permits faster than light travel--interstellar travel just doesn't work without this extrapolation. Readers will forgive these extrapolations if the other science is sound and it is introduced in a plausible manner.

But too much of that and you end up writing fantasy whether you meant to or not.


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Message 90 of 177 (736240)
09-05-2014 9:17 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by Colbard
09-05-2014 9:11 PM


But if you are afraid to communicate with God then, we don't have anything to discuss, except ideas that have been in circulation since the French revolution.

How about we discuss ideas that have been in circulation since the Enlightenment?


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.


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Message 96 of 177 (736252)
09-05-2014 11:34 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by Colbard
09-05-2014 10:13 PM


Re: Discussing hollow earth theory and other nonsense
You already have all the answers about the earth's interior, makes me wonder what would drive you to converse with a misguided delusional person, quoting from a scientifically unreliable source, what is more, none of you are able to remain on the topic, but are caught up in personal problems that interfere with you logging into the Source I proposed.

Your post is in our Science Forums. Here, you have to expect that evidence is required to support one's claims.

You don't like what I have said, and you don't have any use for the references from the Bible.

The bible is not evidence! It is subject to multiple interpretations, as it is littered with allegory, parables, and allusions, and has been translated from one language to another several times. And the selection of books to be included, or rejected, has been very subjective.

As Heinlein noted,

The Bible is such a gargantuan collection of conflicting values that anyone can prove anything from it.

There is no point in me replying here.

Your choice. But realize that the fact that you are dodging our replies suggests some things about the strength of your evidence.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.


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Message 122 of 177 (736358)
09-08-2014 12:23 AM


A note from The Sensuous Curmudgeon
In regard to creationists and creationist websites, perhaps a few humble words of wisdom from The Sensuous Curmudgeon might be of interest.

In a recent blog, dealing with a letter to the editor by a creationist, The Sensuous Curmudgeon concludes:

Geoffrey’s letter is a very good one. Why? Because it supports your Curmudgeon’s often-expressed opinion on the futility of debating or even talking to adult creationists. If someone is still a creationist when he’s past his student years, there’s no way to break through whatever it is that grips him. Although we hear occasional tales of successful de-programming efforts, those are extremely rare. The effort may seem worth the bother to you, but we think it’s an unproductive expenditure of time.

http://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/...dom-467-incurable

Hmmmm. I can think of a couple of examples, one from this very thread, which suggest the Curmudgeon is entirely correct.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.


  
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Message 135 of 177 (741005)
11-08-2014 10:15 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by Colbard
11-08-2014 9:47 PM


Re: Not hollow, but...
The interior of the earth cannot be fathomed or discovered, but only theorized about.

We can gather data through a variety of methods, and then make attempts to analyze and organize that data.

Why do you say we can't do all of this?


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.


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Message 153 of 177 (741271)
11-10-2014 10:03 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by Colbard
11-10-2014 7:37 PM


Re: Consuming interior
Is there some particular reason you are choosing to believe old tribal myths rather than the findings of modern scientific?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.


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