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Author Topic:   Question for creationists: Why would you rather believe in a small God?
yenmor
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Message 1 of 301 (702651)
07-08-2013 12:38 PM


To my dear creationist brothers and sisters,

First of all, I need to throw this out there so there's no misunderstanding. I am an atheist. There are many branches of atheism. There's the militant atheism and there's those in more of a gray area. I exist somewhere between the agnostic and atheist. I don't rule out the possibility of an ultimate being responsible for everything.

Last night, I turned on the tv right before I slept. I stumbled onto an episode of The Universe. This episode was on galaxies.

Basically speaking, our solar system is part of a normal size galaxy called the Milky Way. The Milky Way is part of a cluster of galaxies, including Andromeda. And this cluster is part of a super-cluster of galaxies.

Everywhere the Hubble points at, there are billions of galaxies. They guess-timate that there are 100 billion stars in our galaxy, and there are about 100 billion galaxies in the visible universe.

In other words, the universe is humongous. Who knows what kinds of wonders that are out there. We've barely scratched the surface.

During the show, I thought to myself. If there was a God, and he created this really really really really big universe with all these wonders that are out there waiting for us to explore, why would you rather believe that His word only exist in a book? Why not embrace in a God that is bigger and more powerful than anything we can ever understand, you know, like the God that created this really really really really really big universe?

The more I think about it, the more logic tells me that creationists should be on the forefront of scientific discoveries. God created the entire universe with all the principles and everything else that keeps it in place. We, as His children, should be out there finding out more of His creation instead of stifling scientific discoveries wherever possible.

If there is a God, His true bible exists in nature, not an ancient book that was written by people thousands of years ago.

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yenmor
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Message 3 of 301 (702653)
07-10-2013 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Admin
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yenmor
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Message 14 of 301 (702704)
07-10-2013 11:35 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by marc9000
07-10-2013 7:15 PM


marc9000 writes:

As an agnostic/atheist, are you never the slightest bit skeptical of secular guess-timates involving deep space?


Forgive my lack of humbleness. I have a BS in physics, BS in computer science, and a masters in structural engineering. I worked in research in astrophysics during my time in school. In other words, I've done some of the math behind these numbers. I actually understand what's involved for them to have come up with these numbers.

marc9000 writes:

I believe that's all we're ever going to be able to do. If you disagree, what methods do you believe are right around the corner to take a closer look at things that are thousands of light years away?


For now, none. Does this mean we shouldn't try?

Not at all, because science restricts itself to naturalistic rearrangement processes only. Those who control it don't even allow the exploration of the possibility of an intelligent designer. The human mind can't comprehend creation and destruction. Science tries to fit all of reality into rearrangement processes. Christianity is much more than that. The scientific community claims that it can't address anything to do with Christianity. (other than their belief that it’s wrong) What could a Christian possibly learn about God from godless science?

Then could you cite a few scientific or technological advancements that are due directly to attributing the processes to a God actively participating in the process?

I think it's disingenuous for someone who is interested in the exploration of nature, to claim that others can use nature to reinforce their belief in God, while you use nature to reinforce your belief that there probably isn't a God. If I'm wrong, make your case.

I've spent a great deal of time reading and studying past achievements. What I've found is that attributing the limits of our knowledge to an all powerful magical being gets us no-where. Had Newton attributed gravity to God's magic, calculus would never have been invented. That's just one example.

Again, can you name us a few scientific or technological progress that were directly resulted from attributing some natural processes to God's magic?


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yenmor
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Message 253 of 301 (705569)
08-29-2013 1:53 AM


Wow, I've been too busy with work to check this thread out that I started. I came in just now and it says it will close soon because the 300 posts limit has been reached.

Anyway, in summation.... blah. At least my thread entertained you guys LOL.

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