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Author Topic:   Question for creationists: Why would you rather believe in a small God?
jar
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Message 30 of 301 (702904)
07-12-2013 1:34 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Phat
07-12-2013 1:26 PM


Re: Science meets Faith
Except there seems to be no Biblical basis for humans being fallen, though it does make a great way to con folk.
FUD works.
But there is of course ways to test the two concepts. The evidence shows that in 2000 years inspired Christians have not been able to even come up with a universally accepted list of what books should be in a Bible.
On the other hand, science works by repeatedly doubting testing and confirming or refuting. It's been very successful in creating universal consensus.
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Message 81 of 301 (703075)
07-15-2013 8:26 AM
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07-15-2013 3:31 AM


Re: Science meets Faith
Or that over 6000 years before Adam humans were living in South Carolina or that 6000 years before Adam they were also living all over the world or ...

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Message 154 of 301 (703175)
07-16-2013 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by Faith
07-16-2013 11:35 AM


Re: Science meets Faith
No, you have misrepresented the evidence for a flood and when those misrepresentations have been pointed out to you you have refused to present the flood model for what you claim.
There is NO evidence of the Biblical Flood and anyone today who makes such a claim is simply wrong.
It really is that simple.

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jar
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Message 157 of 301 (703181)
07-16-2013 12:38 PM
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07-16-2013 12:27 PM


Re: Science meets Faith
Except you have never, ever actually presented any such evidence.
If you believe that you actually do have evidence we can certainly start a thread where you can present it.

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jar
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Message 161 of 301 (703197)
07-16-2013 1:46 PM
Reply to: Message 158 by Faith
07-16-2013 1:30 PM


Re: Science meets Faith
Sorry but it seems that you really don't even know what evidence is.
You have asserted that a flood could lay down the layers seen but that is of course simply another of your lies.
Please explain how a flood could lay down a series of millions of repeating and alternating layers of fine sediment then coarser sediment.
The idea of a Biblical flood has been soundly refuted for over 150 years and was refuted by believers in teh Biblical flood.
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jar
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Message 166 of 301 (703202)
07-16-2013 2:00 PM
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07-16-2013 1:51 PM


Re: Science meets Faith
Again, you simply start from a conclusion, make a bunch of unsupported assertions, present no evidence whatsoever and say "the flud did it".
And so once again...
Please explain how a flood could lay down a series of millions of repeating and alternating layers of fine sediment then coarser sediment.
Edited by jar, : appalin spallin : added s to make assertion plural

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Message 194 of 301 (703232)
07-16-2013 8:33 PM
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07-16-2013 7:49 PM


Re: Science meets Faith
Faith writes:
Each bed is labeled with ages in the millions, who cares exactly when evolutionists decided they must have formed so as not to seem quite as idiotic as they are. The age range is ludicrous enough no matter how or when they think the actual sediments were deposited.
And again, do you have any evidence to support some other age?

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Message 215 of 301 (703259)
07-17-2013 8:52 AM
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07-17-2013 6:08 AM


Re: Science meets Faith
Faith writes:
I've answered this many times already. At the time of the Flood the genetic diversity would have been enormously greater than it is now so that the bottleneck would not have produced the high percentage of homozygosity found in the cheetah.
And you have been shown, numerous times, that at the time of the supposed flood genetic diversity was NOT enormously greater than it is now.
You really need to stop repeating falsehoods.

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Message 231 of 301 (703284)
07-17-2013 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 218 by Faith
07-17-2013 11:43 AM


Re: Science meets Faith
Yes it has been shown and repeatedly. Pre-flood and even pre-Adam critters show about the same genetic diversity as today.
You, of course are free to stick your fingers in your ears and shout "Nah nah nah, can't hear you" or shut your eyes and shout "I can't see what you wrote" but honest people have and can.
You even took part in the Oetzi thread where genetics of humans, plants and animals that would have been contemporary with Adam had Adam existed were discussed and there are also studies from humans, plants and animals that lived 10,000, 20,000 even 50,000 years ago and nowhere is your nonsense supported. In fact, humans today show greater genetic diversity than those from over 50,000 years ago.

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