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Author Topic:   Why did the Christian messiah fail to fulfill the messianic prophecies?
Iblis
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Message 62 of 716 (703718)
07-28-2013 3:54 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by NoNukes
07-28-2013 1:17 PM


Re: The Suffering Servant messianic passages
As a non Jew born thousands of years after the events in the Old Testament, I am struggling just a bit to understand why I should care that Jesus was or was not the military leader that some Jews were anticipating.
Isn't it quite relevant though, in the sense that the messiah who the Jews supposedly expected in the year Nothing, the super-powered militant leader who would destroy the wicked, conquer the world, and set up an omnipotent theocracy with them as the best boys and no fun whatsoever for anyone else, is the exact same god expected to return any minute now by fundamentalist Christians? Isn't it nice to know that Jesus isn't him?
Mat24:24 writes:
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Not that this is anything new, of course. There were plenty of "messiahs" at that time, Jew and Christian alike, who tried that and failed miserably.
1Jon2:18 writes:
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
The literate fellow, who read that stuff in Isaiah, and set out to be nailed to a pole by Romans, got er done that week.

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Iblis
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Message 64 of 716 (703723)
07-28-2013 10:17 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by kofh2u
07-28-2013 8:40 PM


Re: who was Jesus...
Excellent work, Holmes!
You didn't take the trouble to compose that yourself, did you? Hope not.

Meanwhile, back in the real world, as this is an evolution thingie, I will document a couple of ancestor species for this kludge.
ELVIS-JESUS SIMILARITIES
Jesus said: Love thy neighbor.
(Matthew 22:39)
Elvis said: Don’t be cruel.
(RCA, 1956)
Jesus is the Lord’s shepherd.
Elvis dated Cybill Shepherd.
Jesus was part of the Trinity.
Elvis’ first band was a trio.
Jesus walked on water.
(Matthew 14:25)
Elvis surfed.
(Blue Hawaii, Paramount, 1965)
Jesus’ entourage, the Apostles, had 12 members.
Elvis’ entourage, the Memphis Mafia, had 12 members.
Jesus was resurrected.
Elvis had the famous 1968 Comeback TV special.
Jesus said, If any man thirst, let him come unto me and drink.
(John 7:37)
Elvis said, Drinks on me!
(Jailhouse Rock, MGM, 1957)
Jesus fasted for 40 days and nights.
Elvis had irregular eating habits.
(e.g. 5 banana splits for breakfast.)
Jesus is a Capricorn. (December 25)
Elvis is a Capricorn. (January 8)
Matthew was one of Jesus’ many biographers.
(The Gospel According to Matthew)
Neil Matthews was one of Elvis’ many biographers.
(Elvis: A Golden Tribute)
Jesus’ countenance was like lightning and his raiment white as snow.
(Matthew 28:3)
Elvis wore snow-white jumpsuits with lightning bolts.
Jesus lived in state of grace in a Near Eastern land.
Elvis lived in Graceland in a nearly eastern state.
Mary, an important woman in Jesus’ life, had an Immaculate Conception.
Priscilla, an important woman in Elvis’ life, went to Immaculate Conception High School.
Jesus was first and foremost the Son of God.
Elvis first recorded with Sun Studios... which today are still considered to be his foremost recordings.
Jesus was the lamb of God.
Elvis had mutton chop sideburns.
Jesus’ Father is everywhere.
Elvis’ father was a drifter and moved around quite a bit.
Jesus was a carpenter.
Elvis’ favorite high school class was woodshop.
Jesus wore a crown of thorns.
Elvis wore Royal Crown hair styler.
Jesus H. Christ has 12 letters.
Elvis Presley has 12 letters.
No one knows what the H in Jesus H. Christ stood for.
No one was really sure if Elvis’ middle name was Aron or Aaron.
Jesus is often depicted in pictures with a halo that looks like a gold plate.
Elvis’ face is often depicted on a plate with gold trim and sold through TV.
Jesus said: Man shall not live by bread alone.
Elvis liked his sandwiches with peanut butter and bananas.
and a little further back, of course
Are These 'Coincidences' Linking Lincoln to Kennedy Real? | Snopes.com
"False", btw.

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