I agree with you 100% that
Science deals with evidence, which in turn is used to construct hypotheses.
However, your argument against logic can also be used against ‘Science’, and everything else for that matter. In any endeavor, if you start off with a faulty premise you’re going to get the wrong answer; would you not agree?
Not only that; but I would go as far as to say if you get faulty information anywhere in an equation you’re going to get something other than the absolute correct answer. You may get something close but sometimes even ‘close’ can be detrimental.
I would also say that Logic is a foundational stepping stone for Science.
I have made no argument against science or logic. I have pointed out that logic can only be useful if the information you are using is useful. This is also true of science, but science has more testing and error correction built in than does logic.
Mr. Coyote writes:
It would seem that if you are going to discuss, scientifically, the properties and behaviors of deities, as you propose, it would first be necessary to produce evidence that deities exist. Then the scientific method and logic could come into play.
I’m sorry; I beg to differ.
The ‘
scientific method and logic’ must be used to determine if a deity/deities exist; and if they/it exists then those same method should be employed to determine what roll they/it played/plays in the existence and operation of the universes. Would you not agree?
The scientific method works by first gathering facts, generally through observation. Groups of facts can then be tentatively explained through hypotheses, or, after rigorous testing of those hypotheses, by development of a theory. In other words, science is facts
and theories. Facts by themselves lack meaning.
But the scientific method can't operate in the absence of those facts (also called evidence).
I do agree that the scientific method and logic will play a roll, but only after you come up with some evidence (facts).
But the bottom line is--if you want to establish the existence of deities, find some evidence that science can deal with. Then the scientific method and logic can be applied.
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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