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anglagard
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Message 17 of 72 (378501)
01-20-2007 10:44 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by joshua221
01-20-2007 7:10 PM


The Good, The Bad, and the Indifferent
prophyx writes:
Because humans can know what is right and what is wrong, there must be an answer for every situation and every question as to what the good is. What is good must be good for every human being or conscience has no use for us and is non-existent.
Is music good, bad, or indifferent?
Depends upon the circumstances.
“Music is good to the melancholy, bad to those who mourn, and neither good nor bad to the deaf” - Spinoza
Your point was refuted over 300 years ago in one sentence.

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anglagard
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Message 43 of 72 (378736)
01-21-2007 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by joshua221
01-20-2007 11:56 PM


Re: The Good, The Bad, and the Indifferent
prophyx writes:
Surprised at that statement, we are dealing with objectivities here.
What is right, just, how should one live, why do I exist, all of these questions were covered by Socrates.
Did Socrates come to any definitive and absolute conclusions concerning those questions? Has anyone since?
Does this not show that such questions reveal the subjective nature of any conclusions based upon such questions?
But you are right, I should have been more definitive in my reply. Without the context of that quote, it would not make as much sense as it should.
Lets try using the term murder instead of music.
On July 20, 1944, an attempt was made on Hitler's life.
Hitler's assasination (=murder) would have been good to the Allies, bad to the Nazis, and indifferent to Franco.
Therefore proscriptions against murder are not an absolute that exist somewhere "out there" independent of the individual's viewpoint. Therefore morality is subjective.
Care to try this game with any other form of absolute morality you may come up with?

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