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Message 6 of 119 (706313)
09-09-2013 1:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by bluegenes
09-09-2013 2:53 AM


Does anyone think they can actually prove that the earth is spherical?

I wonder if Richard Branson could even convince them:

http://www.virgingalactic.com/

and don't forget to read the FAQs

They mention that the North Pole is the center of the disc and at the outer edge is an ice wall that corresponds to Antarctica. If they really cared to find out, they could measure the length of the circumference of Antarctica and figure out that its way to small to be the outer edge of the disc.


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Message 13 of 119 (706470)
09-12-2013 10:05 AM
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09-12-2013 7:39 AM


Re: from the FAQ
arachnophilia writes:

near the antarctic should be significantly longer than circumnavigation near the arctic.


But you would be measuring the times of voyages making "round earth" assumptions.

You could use stakes as markers to determine when you went around once and then figure up the distance you traveled (maybe with a really long wire) and see that its way too short to be the outer edge of the disc.

the rim-proximity time warp hypothesis

Heh, they should have a rim-proximity space warp hypothesis where as you approach the outer edge of the disc, space is warped back around towards itself to a centralized point directly underneath the north pole.

Edited by Catholic Scientist, : No reason given.


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Message 15 of 119 (706478)
09-12-2013 11:01 AM
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09-12-2013 10:46 AM


Re: from the FAQ
Heh, they should have a rim-proximity space warp hypothesis where as you approach the outer edge of the disc, space is warped back around towards itself to a centralized point directly underneath the north pole.

We do.

Nice. So its flat, its just that everything is distorted to make it look like a sphere. Truly inarguable.

We also have a "staked wire distortion hypothesis" which would render your suggested experiment above futile.

Do you have a link to that hypothesis? I couldn't find it through google.


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Message 22 of 119 (706523)
09-13-2013 10:03 AM
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09-13-2013 1:18 AM


Re: Hard facts.
The coastline of the ice wall ("Antarctica") measures 17,968 km.

The circuit that Round Earthers consider to be the "equator" measures 6,378 km.

According to my geometry, that leaves us a distance of 3,690 km between the ice wall and the equator. That is less than half the length of South America, which is mostly in the southern hemisphe....er, I mean, the outer-half section of the disc.

So that can't be right.


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Message 25 of 119 (706532)
09-13-2013 11:24 AM
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09-13-2013 11:08 AM


Re: Hard facts.
How did you measure South America? I hope you didn't use your stake and wire method or make RE assumptions.

I hiked it with one of these:


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Message 28 of 119 (706539)
09-13-2013 12:14 PM
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09-13-2013 12:06 PM


Re: Hard facts.
When we say "flat", we don't mean it so literally that you can measure it by walking up and down the peaks of the Andes all the way from north to south with one of those things.

No, you mean it in an even more ridiculous way.


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Message 30 of 119 (706541)
09-13-2013 12:25 PM
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09-13-2013 12:09 PM


Is there any reason why they put the North Pole in the middle, rather then ... well, anything else, it would work equally well.

I think its so they can have the ice wall (Antarctica) surrounding everything and holding the oceans in.

If you chose a different point, then the oceans would fall off the edge of the disc.


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