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Author Topic:   Morals without God or Darwin, just Empathy
Woodsy
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Message 106 of 184 (381953)
02-02-2007 5:10 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by anastasia
02-02-2007 4:45 PM


Re: Empathy does not equal Good
Btw, I did not mean to say that the threads were boring, but that the thought of morality without God is so empty. It sorta makes all of our sacrifice and all of our heroism just another possible outcome of biological stimulus; a learned behaviour, both replicable and mechanical.

I do not agree. I would admire someone who does good from their own kindliness much more than someone who does so from fear of a (perhaps only imaginary) god. If our sacrifice etc is our own, we have a valid claim to our own nobility; otherwise we do not.

To me, it is the servile, god-fearing type of morality that is empty.


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Woodsy
Member (Idle past 2117 days)
Posts: 301
From: Burlington, Canada
Joined: 08-30-2006


Message 114 of 184 (382085)
02-03-2007 8:07 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by anastasia
02-02-2007 5:31 PM


Re: Empathy does not equal Good
Ah...I am disappointed with this response. A sacrifice of heroic proportions is altogether forgotten, when the do-er makes claim to his own nobility

I think you may have misunderstood me. What I am getting at is an idea that the heroic sacrificer displays nobility if the sacrifice is from his own good will, but not if it is merely from fear of a god or anything else.

I any case, why should heroism be forgotten, no matter what its motivation?

I'd like to offer another similar example, if you will indulge me. On a camping trip, someone commented to the effect that a tree we were enjoying looking at displayed God's glory. I found that I preferred to allow the tree the diginity of its and its ancestors' own histories and successful struggles for survival.


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