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Author Topic:   What if this forum was dominated by creationists?
yenmor
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Message 57 of 86 (708033)
10-03-2013 7:13 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by 1.61803
10-03-2013 6:17 PM


Re: How do these ideas co-exist?
1.61803 writes:

I think it is more of just wanting to see how much back peddling you will do and how much you trip yourself up whilst doing it.


What back-peddling?

Again, I ask this question. Why do those 2 things need to be mutually exclusive? For example, just because I can't tell if my breath stinks or not doesn't mean I can't have a friend smell it and tell me. Or I could brush my teeth heavily and chug down like 2 gallons of mouthwash right before an event.

It is laughable to suggest that just because we normally can't tell if our breath stinks or not then we can never know in any/all instances that our breath stinks or not.

Yes, we have uncertainty. And people who are less qualified than others tend to have a more bloated sense of qualification. Trust me, I know. I observed this many times while I was in grad school working as a TA. Often times, the students who did very poorly on the tests thought they nailed them. But again, just because one tries to be self-aware of his limitations and what he knows doesn't mean he automatically falls into this category.

My goodness...

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yenmor
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Message 59 of 86 (708035)
10-03-2013 8:13 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Jon
10-03-2013 7:55 PM


Re: And the editor of the year award goes to...
Well, it was the only response I could think of for a political correctness Nazi at the time. No argument here.

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yenmor
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Message 61 of 86 (708037)
10-03-2013 8:48 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by jar
10-03-2013 8:20 PM


Re: And the editor of the year award goes to...
Well, seeing how you assumed I'm a rescuer and reformer and you look down on such kind, not surprising you would say this.

I just noticed something. Group think is taking hold of this thread. I said something that the politically correct crowd doesn't like, and now my words are nitpicked and quote-mined.

Anyway, I still reserve the right to call that family white trash, and the parents white trash parents. Read my previous explanations for why.


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yenmor
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Message 70 of 86 (708116)
10-05-2013 2:04 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by Coyote
10-04-2013 9:45 PM


Re: What if this forum was dominated by creationists?
Evolutionfairytale welcomes you. Haha

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yenmor
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Message 71 of 86 (708117)
10-05-2013 2:07 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by NoNukes
10-04-2013 8:53 PM


Re: Come one come all
I would argue that group think creeps up on us and that no one is immune to it all the time. It has happened to me as I'm sure it has happened to others.

I've read a study before, can't find citation, that the bigger the crowd, the lower the average IQ.


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yenmor
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Message 72 of 86 (708118)
10-05-2013 2:13 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by Stile
10-04-2013 2:31 PM


Re: How do these ideas co-exist?
Stile writes:

I just found it interesting that earlier you mentioned how people can't ever really be positive that anything they judge is ever really 100%valid. Then you get onto a topic that you're passionate about, and all of a sudden you're "exactly literal." It seemed like a contradiction to me and I was just wondering if you'd ever get around to this again:


Stop it with the quote mining. The first instance was referring to individuals doing independent evaluation, and I even explained that in such a case we can never know for sure if what we think is truly accurate. The second instance there was a specific example of a literal white trash family. I even went out of my way to give you details about that family. Read my previous descriptions of them. And I'm not the only one who has described them as white trash.

May be one of the posters here was right, that you were just baiting waiting for me to back peddle or whatever.

I see. Then, for this specific instance, how do you know you are being "exactly literal" and not evaluating your own judgement (sic) incorrectly?

Independent verifications by others. I've even written out some details about them for you to see.

Based on the details I've given, how else would you describe this family?

I still don't understand how you can continue to quote mine me and misread what I said like that. Just baiting for me to back peddle?

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yenmor
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Message 73 of 86 (708119)
10-05-2013 2:20 AM
Reply to: Message 66 by 1.61803
10-04-2013 10:53 AM


Re: How do these ideas co-exist?
1.61803 writes:

Airing out your boyfriend and his familie's dirty laundry on a anonymous internet forum is not a way to reconcile the way you feel about it. This has nothing to do with the Dunning-Krueger effect and perhaps more to do with you not wanting to appear elitist and judgemental. Which is precisely how many fundies act.


You are absolutely correct. I guess I got carried away when that family came to my mind. My mind is preoccupied with them at the moment. The aunts and uncles are trying to guilt us into taking them in... taking in 2 alcoholic parents and a 15 year old sister that still has tantrums... not to mention the guns that Obama is coming any day now to take away from him.

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yenmor
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Message 76 of 86 (708141)
10-05-2013 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by Stile
10-05-2013 9:00 AM


Re: How do these ideas co-exist?
-->No, just wondering if you'll acknowledge that people aren't ever really black-or-white.

Um, that's why I also said that's just the tip of the ice berg. Having known these people for years, I can confidently say everything about them is white trash. Before I met them I had no idea there's a family out there that actually resemble the stereotype.

But whatever. You know best. You win.


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yenmor
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Message 80 of 86 (708270)
10-07-2013 10:10 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by NoNukes
10-07-2013 10:34 AM


Re: How do these ideas co-exist?
NoNukes writes:

et me say one thing positive about this 'white trash' family. Apparently whatever are their faults, they did managed to produce at least one family member that both you and they are quite enamored with.


Yes, they are so enamored of him that they threw him out of the house at age 15. Good call on that one.

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