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Message 5 of 111 (710295)
11-04-2013 10:51 AM


To see the lengths creationists will go to, check out the following:

Report on the 2013 International Conference on Creationism


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle


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Message 37 of 111 (710768)
11-10-2013 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by marc9000
11-10-2013 5:00 PM


Re: Calling young earthers to the podium
Slight problem with your parallax math:

Try it again using opposite sides of the earth's orbit (i.e., six months apart).

Here is a site that might explain it to you.

http://lcogt.net/spacebook/parallax-and-distance-measurement


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle


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Message 40 of 111 (710778)
11-10-2013 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Theodoric
11-10-2013 8:16 PM


Re: Calling young earthers to the podium
Why do people like marc, and the people he uses as experts, insist on arguing about things and concepts they have no clue about. This last one is so blindingly idiotic that it is stunning that they actually think they have an argument.

The root of the problem is that they know science is wrong and the bible is correct.

They don't know the scientific details--why bother to study something you know is wrong?

So they guess at the details, and invent "what-ifs" to reassure themselves that everything is fine within their belief structure.

And they ignore, deny, or misrepresent any evidence that might suggest that they are wrong.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle


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Message 45 of 111 (710863)
11-11-2013 10:12 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by caffeine
11-11-2013 4:04 AM


Re: Calling young earthers to the podium
If we're going to criticise creationists for sloppy scholarship, we could at least do them the courtesy of attempting to read and understand what they write.

You are correct.

My bad.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle


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