Kind of like only a chosen few can decide what's good for us and what's truth and what isn't, like the dark ages?
Not really, the criteria is not what people think, it is what is supported by the evidence and that the scientific process can be replicated and reviewed and tested and that the result is validated concepts.
It is the process that makes science work, not the people, not their beliefs.
So no, not at all like the dark ages of knowledge suppression by religious dictatorships
It seems to me that many religious people cannot fathom this distinction, because they seems to only know one way of thinking: dictation by authority.
We'll the bible is yec, which is why I don't get the popes mates advocating for theistic evolution.
And that should be a clue that your premise that the bible is yec is false. There are many christians that follow the bible but are not yec, and cover the rest of the field of creationism from old earth creationist to theistic creationist.
And this should also be a clue that the problem is not between the bible and science but the yec views and science.
I understand how you would like me to behave but the undertone of many responses is very subjective and non scientific and a personal attack.
A couple of years ago you would have experienced a lot of reprimands for language and personal attacks -- you have been allowed a LOT of leeway to bare your soul ... and the picture was not pretty.
You benefit from relaxed enforcement in an effort to encourage more creationist participation. My opinion is that bending over backwards does not help when what is desired is creationists that debate with substance, arbuments supported by evidence rather than just assertions based on fantasy.
I find it curious that creationists will claim a superior morality based on their beliefs but fail to exhibit model behavior.
So it is not so much that I want you to behave according to my standards but that I expect you to behave according to your standards of good behavior -- you are an ambassador for your beliefs.
You deny insulting my intellect, tisk tisk, it is what you guys do all day long, you claim some intellectual academic higher ground that doesn't exist any more than any moral high ground exists.
I have said undereducated ignorant -- which just means that you don't know -- and that leaves you intellectually stunted, but it does not say you are incapable of learning, that is a choice you make: learn or remain ignorant.
Curiously I don't see wanting to be ignorant as a good thing, not for any one person, and certainly not for a nation.
Yes I was here few years ago and that has changed but the anti creationist anti Christ vibe and attitude of the members is the same, mate if you insult people you get insulted back it's rather pathetic to accuse me for being the instigator of insults and adhom.
You tell me what it is chap its your troll hole not mine.
By definition, a troll would be somebody who's here to stir up trouble instead of honestly discussing the issues. The onus is on creationists to present their side of the question. Unfortunately, there's little enough to present and few creationists understand creationism any better than they understand science.
In this thread I propose to discuss why "creationism" in general, and "Young Earth Creationism (YEC)" in particular are BAD for the US.
YEC gives Christianity a bad name. Saint Augustine cautioned Christians to not deny known scientific facts in favour of faulty interpretations of Scriptures, as it heaps shame and embarrassment on the Church.