EvC Forum: Was Jesus' crucifixion all part of God's plan?

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Message 78 of 175 (713178)
12-10-2013 1:40 PM

Reply to: Message 77 by Phat
12-10-2013 1:29 PM

Re: Grace as a necessity

Phat writes:

Jesus IS Gods gift. He wont take it back

But he did take him back. If he'd let him stick around, even I'd believe in him.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

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Message 153 of 175 (743575)
12-02-2014 1:18 PM

Reply to: Message 149 by Phat
12-02-2014 11:53 AM

Re: Jesus: His Life or His Death,burial, and resurrection?

Phat writes:

Before Jesus came, GOD was unable to communicate to humans...

No he wasn't

GOD had to send an ant to tell the ants some things.

No he didn't.

If Hell exists, we would have lacked the intelligence and trust to get out of hell ourselves.

No we wouldn't.

Do you see the problem yet?

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 156 of 175 (743595)
12-02-2014 3:37 PM

Reply to: Message 155 by Phat
12-02-2014 3:17 PM

Re: Jesus: His Life or His Death,burial, and resurrection?

Phat writes:

All I see is me stating my beliefs and you saying nuh uh didnt happen.

Was there something I missed?

I think the thing you've missed, is that what I've said is equally as valid as what you've said - but there's no validity in either position.

You're just making shit up and all that anybody reading it has to do is shrug and say 'so what?' It works in church but nowhere else.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 170 of 175 (743817)
12-05-2014 4:01 AM

Reply to: Message 161 by Phat
12-04-2014 5:27 AM

Re: As a believer.

Phat writes:

As people...as humans...should we expect anything from each other? What is the least we should expect?

I can offer you two - the first you might recognise:

To be done to as we would be done by.

The second is a secular equivalent, from the Advertising Standards Authority (UK).

To be legal, decent, honest and truthful

But the golden rule covers it - and, of course, it wasn't a Christian invention, most societies has a version of it.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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