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Author Topic:   On The Limits of Human Talent
Son Goku
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Message 43 of 126 (711821)
11-22-2013 4:05 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by marc9000
11-22-2013 9:30 AM


Re: I guess I need to chip in here.
marc9000 writes:
As one example, depending on which astronomer is asked, the Milky Way galaxy has 100 billion to 400 billion stars. Which is it? The 300 billion difference is a big number. The scientific method, we're told, requires actual science to be testable, repeatable, observable, falsifiable. It would be logical to expect the 100 billion number, and the 400 billion number to be tested, and one of them falsified.
It doesn't depend on which astronomer you ask, any astronomer will tell you that the current estimate is 100-400 billion. It has an error range like any value in science.
Current equipment can not resolve the correct number any better than this. As soon as the equipment improves the error range will narrow.
Secondly, even the way you have phrased the range is incorrect. 100 billion and 400 billion are not competing estimates to be falsified against each other. Think about it, what theory would propose either of these numbers. Rather we have measured the value to be somewhere within the range 100-400 billion, with better estimates waiting for better equipment.

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Message 108 of 126 (712129)
11-27-2013 3:10 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by marc9000
11-23-2013 9:00 PM


Re: I guess I need to chip in here.
"Error range"? I've never heard that expression before, do different scientific disciplines have different error ranges? Who determines what that range is?
In all your time criticising science and talking about what "real science" should be, you have never heard of one the most basic concepts in science and statistics. A concept that occurs in virtual all sciences that use observation (i.e. all of them) and statistical analysis (i.e. virtually all of them)?
Would this perhaps make you rethink your criticisms of science? Imagine if you criticised historical research but had never heard the words "Primary Source", when you did you'd probably think "I really know nothing about history".
What determines the error range is statistical analysis, a science in itself.
Edited by Son Goku, : No reason given.

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