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Message 58 of 134 (777404)
01-30-2016 1:11 PM


El Nino in the Sierra Nevada
Not frightful but starting to get a little nervous-making: incessant rain here on the east side of the Sierra Nevada. It's been fairly steady since yesterday afternoon, which is just the latest in a winter of frequent rainfall since the first of the year, with occasional snow that melts off rapidly. We're having a very wet El Nino winter, and that's good because the last few years have been severe drought. The snowpack in the Sierra is well above average so far, which is a good start. It matters most to California, since they get a third of their water from the Sierra snowpack.

So far so good, but still, more than one winter like this is needed to make up for the drought, and there's a catch: the snowpack has to stay there continuing to accumulate until Spring, and then just melt off slowly, to do the reservoirs any good. If it warms up too much and runs off too fast it doesn't do anything for the drought and it floods both sides of the mountains.

Which is what happened in January of 1997, another El Nino winter after a long drought. I had driven up to Lake Tahoe earlier and seen the sad low level of the Lake and the dry bed of the Truckee River which originates in the lake. I don't drive these days but it must have looked much the same through this current drought.

So we had heavy snow that year and then it warmed up in January and the snowpack began to melt, and it flooded towns all over northern California and the Truckee River flooded downtown Reno.

So this much rain makes me nervous. Maybe the rain will stay down here and the snow will stay up there and it won't run off until Spring as hoped, but it makes me nervous. So MUCH rain. You'd think we were Seattle instead of the desert.

ABE: I love rain, I love the sound of it, the more the better normally. Want to say that in case I'm giving the wrong impression here. It's just that I remember the flood of 1997 and now it makes me nervous if it's warm enough in January to rain and not snow. I was in Reno during that flood and stranded for a couple of days.

Just found this compilation of video on that flood. Maybe boring to anyone but me but I'll post it anyway:

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Message 60 of 134 (777411)
01-30-2016 2:47 PM
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01-30-2016 2:19 PM


Re: El Nino in the Sierra Nevada
Have you seen any big wooden boats with giraffes sticking out the top?

Got a report that it was seen floating on Lake Tahoe. The giraffes had thick scarves around their necks and knit caps on their heads.


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Message 63 of 134 (777449)
01-31-2016 3:36 PM
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Re: El Nino in the Sierra Nevada
That would be a heck of a scarf.

Mrs. Noah had a lot of time on her hands.


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Message 65 of 134 (777497)
02-02-2016 5:39 PM
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Re: El Nino in the Sierra Nevada
I googled enough to get a rough idea of what you're talking about. His scarf is only twelve feet long though.

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We got snow today so no worries about warming up and flooding things.

But now I worry about those poor giraffes. If it's this cold here it's a lot colder up there. But I hear Mrs. Noah is almost finished with her gigantic afghan which should warm them up.


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Message 67 of 134 (777510)
02-02-2016 10:46 PM
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02-02-2016 10:23 PM


Re: El Nino in the Sierra Nevada
I considered them. I figure they are all tucked away in the ark where it's no doubt pretty steamy from all the body heat, as well as the cooking done for the Noah family (though I hear they send up some of the giraffes' favorite leaf broth from time to time). Plus they have beds of hay to lie on. It's the poor giraffes who have to suffer, sticking up into the frigid air as they do, and all for the sake of PR as far as I can tell.

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Message 69 of 134 (777514)
02-03-2016 12:10 AM
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02-02-2016 11:51 PM


Re: El Nino in the Sierra Nevada
The larger sauropods were too big to fit between the decks of the ark, and so they must all have been on top.

Ah, Dr. Adequate, you overlook the fact that we have EVIDENCE -- only the giraffes are pictured at the top of the ark.

There are other ways of explaining your concern of course.

First, that only babies of the larger species would have been taken into the ark.

Second, that you are probably confounding species with subspecies. The ark would have carried those that had the greatest genetic potential for producing many subspecies, and that might not include both of your examples.

ABE: I don't think I'm getting what I mean said here. The thought is more like: there are a great variety of subspecies of most species, and by the time of the ark there would probably not have been any of the original species still alive. As with dogs now there would be a great array of dramatically different subspecies, any of which might be selected to contribute to the genetic mix that would produce the new variety of descendants after the Flood. That would no doubt have also been the case with the dinosaur types. There is of course no way to know which subspecies any particular type belongs to since there is no way to classify them genetically, but whatever grouping is represented it seems reasonable that there would be plenty of smaller versions of it to make up the ark population. No need to include the gigantic types of the same subspecies. /ABE

Third, there is no reason to assume that the decks were continuous to all sides of the ark, but may have had openings that would accommodate a long-necked creature. If needed, but I think what I wrote above makes that unlikely anyway.

And fourth, we're talking about a cartoon here, so we'll have cartoon sauropods in our cartoon ark along with cartoon giraffes suffering from exposure at the top of the cartoon ark.

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Message 78 of 134 (852753)
05-16-2019 2:01 PM


snow in May
Unseasonable weather here too. Keeps alternating from wet and cold to dry and warm every few days. Last weekend we had dry 80s. dropped to windy 60s today.

We're supposed to get 18 to 24 INCHES OF SNOW IN THE MOUNTAINS TODAY. The snow level has already beat records back to the 50s and the reservoirs are full to overflowing. More snow is worrisome because as soon as we have an extended period of warm days it's going to melt and could cause serious flooding in Northern California as well as here in Northern Nevada.


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Message 81 of 134 (852771)
05-16-2019 3:45 PM
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05-16-2019 2:34 PM


Re: snow in May
I remember the excitement of the very rare snowfall in California. It's never that exciting here.

This is off topic but dogs are funny. Scared to death of lightening, and really it's hard to blame them especially when it's as rare as you said. But I happened to watch the Netflix movies about Ted Bundy the serial killer recently and was interested to find out that dogs would growl and snarl at him as if they knew he was a killer. Only one instance was shown in the Netflix films and it was a little hard to believe, but I got interested enough to read a book about him where two other instances are mentioned: dogs going absolutely bonkers when he shows up and especially when he gets too close to their owner. Nobody took it seriously at the time, just tried to shush up the dogs. But they weren't just barking, they were snarling and threatening and in retrospect it makes me wonder what vibes they were picking up from Bundy. So the moral is Trust your Akita. He may cower when Nature goes ***** but he'd take a bite out of Bundy for you.

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Message 83 of 134 (852774)
05-16-2019 4:06 PM
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05-16-2019 4:04 PM


Re: snow in May
Interesting. Trust your doggie.

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Message 90 of 134 (852829)
05-17-2019 4:06 PM
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Re: snow in May
Yeah, small children and women who smoke doesn't quite fit the profile here. But then he probably hasn't encountered a Bundy so who knows.

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Message 91 of 134 (852830)
05-17-2019 4:08 PM


We've got rain in our forecast and yikes more snow in the Sierra, over the next few days. This is getting pretty scary.

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Message 93 of 134 (852847)
05-18-2019 1:26 AM
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05-17-2019 6:59 PM


Why would you think this is scary?
Just looks like normal weather to me. Nothing unexpected, right?

Quoting myself in Message 78:"More snow is worrisome because as soon as we have an extended period of warm days {and summer isn't far away already} it's going to melt and could cause serious flooding in Northern California as well as here in Northern Nevada."
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The flooding in 1997 was pretty bad. I was holed up with my brother and sister in law for days as their apartment building was high enough to be a sort of island surrounded by the flood waters. I'd also managed to park my car on a high spot. Others weren't so lucky. My brother's storage unit was under water. We saw lots of aerial shots of downtown Reno on the TV. The Truckee River had overrun the bridges and overflowed the streets for four or five blocks on either side. And California was having an even worse time so Reno hardly made the national news. But earlier I had driven to Reno in the rain through a gorgeous double rainbow that made it almost worth it.

And, yes, good boy doggies are excetionally attuned to the emotions of their masters. It's a co-evolution thing between homo and canis. My old departed Tiger, a pure-breed mutt, despised Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Well, hooray. Now if you could teach such a dog to explain to the JWs why they aren't Christians you get an extra hooray.

But I'm talking about three dogs which, on separate occasions when encountering Ted Bundy, crouched and growled and snarled at him though he was doing nothing, just being his "nice" self. People who witnessed the dogs' behavior thought it very unusual. Nobody knew at the time that Bundy was a serial killer. The question is What do you think the dogs sensed in Bundy that made them so belligerent toward him?

If you answer, it woujld help if you answered on the Bundy thread after Message 22.

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Message 101 of 134 (853079)
05-22-2019 10:34 AM
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05-22-2019 6:22 AM


Re: Thunder and Lightning
You must get your water from wells? Are there enough of them to irrigate all that dust?

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Message 103 of 134 (853172)
05-23-2019 10:11 AM
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05-23-2019 7:37 AM


Re: Thunder and Lightning
Same fate I keep foreseeing for the US.

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Message 104 of 134 (855147)
06-16-2019 8:13 PM


The snow pack is melting
So far not the major flooding I kept thinking could happen with the snow pack as deep as it is and the highs even at Tahoe hitting the 80s, though there have been some flood warnings for the smaller rivers in the area, where they've been piling up the sandbags. Nothing too serious though. They keep warning people to stay out of the Truckee because it's running high and fast and is so cold you'll be paralyzed in very short order if you fall into it. But no serious flooding.

But then about an hour ago there was one of those radio warnings with all the beeping noises, that they're expecting flash flooding in California, on the other side of the mountains, mostly in the area of the big fire last year. Well I'll pray for them.

I AM relieved it hasn't been too bad on either side so far, hope it stays at this level.

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