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You're a riot and a half.

I agree that the river created the meanders. But the canyon meanders from the top of the canyon to the base of the canyon. That means that the river has been at it for a very long time. The Flood didn't carve the meanders and that means there is no mechanism for the rapid weathering you require to maintain a young earth belief.

That is insanity.

I have no idea what you think you are talking about, it makes absolutely no sense, it IS insanity. As I said from the beginning I think what happened is that the uplift caused by the tectonic force after the Flood cracked the upper strata and the Flood waters poured into the cracks. Water goes to the lowest level in its path. There is no reason to assume any particular shape of the canyon, cracks, rushing water go wherever they go. Where do you get your idiotic idea that the Flood water should have created some other path than it did? Talk about making things up!! That's ALL you are doing, all anybody here is doing.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Obviously no one can follow your logic. This is the first post in a series of posts that is starting to make sense.The problem is you don't know the subject matter very well and every attempt you make to get your point across is hampered by your inability to write in a clear and coherent manner.Now you have to explain and support: 1) timing for when the sediment was lithified and 2) when the river started cutting down into the rock.

Which is correct as far as it goes ... the trouble is that there is no evidence to support the flood drainage flows. Rather than delving more into the canyon let's look north and south of it.There are two paths, one north of the canyon and one south of the canyon where the ridge elevation is lower where they cross the (middle right) ridge than the Grand Canyon location where it crosses the ridge: darker green is higher land than lighter green and I have drawn a topographic line for the elevation dividing dark from light.And there is another high point in the middle left where the canyon goes through while paths north and south have lower elevations.Why are there no similar canyons in those locations?Why does the Grand Canyon go through two high points?EnjoyEdited by RAZD, : piclink

What tectonic force after the flood? Rebound? Orogeny? What?How would water flowing above (and depositing upon?) unconsolidated strata break/crack the underlying strata? Cracking and breaking requires the sediment to be lithified.

THE TECTONIUC FORCE THAT CAUSED THE UPLIFT, THAT CAUSED OR WAS CAUSED BY THE VOLCANIC EFFECTS, THAT CAUSED THE FAULTING AND THE EARTHQUAKES, THAT CUT THE CANYONS AND ALL THE OTHER FORMATIONS OF THE SOUTHWEST, AND IN MY OPINION THAT CAUSED THE ANGULAR UNCONFORMITIES AS WELL, ALL AT THE END OF THE FLOOD. IT ALSO PUSHED THE ROCKIES UP. IT ALL STARTED AT ONCE, THE CONTINENTS STARTED SEPARATING AND THE WHOLE WORKS, RIGHT AT THE END OF THE FLOOD.

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DAMP MODELING CLAY WILL CRACK AND BREAK.

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I SAID THE UPLIFT CAUSED THE CRACKING, NOT THE WATER.
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Earthquakes don't create meanders. The canyon's shape shows that the meanders existed from the beginning. The canyon's shape could not have been created by tectonic cracking.

That's your best argument yet.

Saturated clay will bend, ... and you have fully saturated clay.Saturated sediments will liquefy and settle with fine particles rising while large dense particles sink (think quicksand) or flow downhill when shaken by an earthquake, ... and you have fully saturated sediments. And the faults all seem to run north/south rather than east/west ...The reasons your arguments are wrong do not change with you repeating it in larger letters.Enjoy

DAMP MODELING CLAY WILL CRACK AND BREAK. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

and saturated clay bends. your clay has been underwater for ~a year.Just think of making pots with 'ropes' of clay run round and round -- the way pots were first made.Enjoy

THOSE ROPES WILL CRACK AND BREAK TOO Edited by Faith, : No reason given.