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ringo
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Message 1231 of 1249 (883032)
11-01-2020 2:26 PM
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10-31-2020 4:54 AM


AZPaul3 writes:

Good god where did the time go?


I hear people talking about, "waaaay back in the eighties." Half the time I'm still thinking of the eighties as the future.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Message 1232 of 1249 (883033)
11-01-2020 3:17 PM
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11-01-2020 2:26 PM


The 80's was way after my time.

Our city would sponsor a "Concert in the Park" once a week in the summer. One night, the band singer announced that they were going to sing all the great songs from the 80's. From the picnic blanket next to us I heard the comment, "Well, this shouldn't take long."


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Message 1233 of 1249 (883035)
11-01-2020 3:23 PM
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11-01-2020 3:17 PM


like^ like^ like^ like^

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Message 1234 of 1249 (883039)
11-01-2020 10:26 PM


Observation.
I’m thinking a number of you here might ascribe to the quaint notion that the advancement of music in human society took a massive debilitating shock in the late 70’s with the advent of di … dis ... disco(!) and has since fallen still farther to become functionally comatose as of Justin Bieber or there abouts. From my view I have to acknowledge that your notion is most probably correct.

I had to live through disco, people!

After a steady diet of creative music from Beethoven to Beatles to Jefferson Airplane, Pink Floyd, Stones, Hendrix, Zeppelin, Dylan, Butterfly, Seger, Cherry Garcia … after all that then the universe tried to feed me disco? WTF?! NO!

Ever since then the human cultural activity we used to call “popular music” has gone to the depths of formula with no imagination, no evolution, no poetry and no soul.

For the coming holiday (in USA - Thanksgiving on either 11/26 or 26/11 whichever works for you) I plan to be especially thankful for the technology that allows me to continue to enjoy listening to those final decades of the most advanced, most sophisticated, most inspired and most beautiful era of humanity's cultural treasure of music, killed off by kids with cotton (and lots of other stuff) in (and hanging on) their ears and that "I'm not stoned but I'm vacant anyway" look in their eyes when you ask them who Gracie Slick is.

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Factio Republicana delenda est.
I am antifa.

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Message 1235 of 1249 (883040)
11-02-2020 12:56 AM
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11-01-2020 10:26 PM


Re: Observation.
Actually, in my case disco had come and was on its way out the door before I first encountered it (that was "A Fifth of Beethoven" which Mexican TV used in its coverage of the 1976 Summer Olympics).

I grew up on the music of the second half of the 60's (basically starting with Rubber Soul). My older sisters were always playing 50's music which I did not like (though after learning to dance a couple decades ago I've been able to appreciate it more, though not as much as big band).

Then early in the 70's the musical, Grease, sparks a big 50's revival in popular music. I didn't like it the first time around and I didn't like it rehashed either. My impression was that rock must be starting to die since it clearly was running out of ideas.

At that time, a friend played his Switched On Bach, which introduced me to baroque music from which I branched out to classical, etc. That was about the only music that I listened to for the next 28 years, so most popular music and artists just went unnoticed (eg, disco). I've heard some names, but have no idea what they've done nor how they sound. For example I do remember Michael Jackson, but I only know the bubble-gum stuff he did in the 60's.

 
Talking about Grace Slick, I saw Jefferson Airplane (that Starship stuff was also after my time) at the Newport Pop Festival (03-04 Aug 1968 -- they were the closing act on the last day). When the audience start calling out for "White Rabbit", she said, "No! I hate that song!"


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Message 1236 of 1249 (883041)
11-02-2020 11:24 AM
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11-01-2020 10:26 PM


Re: Observation.
AZPaul3 writes:

Ever since then the human cultural activity we used to call “popular music” has gone to the depths of formula with no imagination, no evolution, no poetry and no soul.


I am reminded of Bing Crosby in Going My Way:

Bing plays a songwriter-turned-priest and the parents of a runaway teenage girl want him to talk her out of her dream of being a famous singer. He asks her to sings and she sings, all the while moving her hands in a wax-on wax-off motion.

He stops her and asks what the hand signals are about. She replies that somebody told her to move her hands while she sings.

He says yes, but the hand motions should have something to do with what you're singing.

Which brings me to Beyoncé., et al. and their backup dancers who do the same moves for every song. (Or maybe every song IS saying the same thing.)

Which reminds me of Jed Clampett singing, "Well Baby Oh Baby Yeah Baby." (You can find it on YouTube.)

Which reminds me of Fred Flintstone, as Hi-Fye, singing, "Listen to the rockin' bird."

Which reminds me....


"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Message 1237 of 1249 (883043)
11-02-2020 1:41 PM
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11-02-2020 11:24 AM


Re: Observation.
AZPaul3 writes:

Ever since then the human cultural activity we used to call “popular music” has gone to the depths of formula with no imagination, no evolution, no poetry and no soul.


I am reminded ...

In the early 70's, there was a German Kino (cinema) at Alpine Village in Torrance which played German movies on the weekends (later converted to a dining area for their beer hall). I was learning German at the time so I would go there to practice my ear (no Netflix in those days).

One of the movies was a Ruth Leuwerik tear-jerker in which she played a teacher mentoring troubled students were so heavily into jazz that they had their own jazz band and would play all night (this was after all not only the 50's, but also Germany in the 50's, so troubled youth would become jazz-heads). One of the student dies (of an illness, since that would be worth half a packet of Kleenex (you would rate a tear-jerker by how many packets of tissues were used)) and his friends want to play at his funeral and the funeral director adamantly refuses with a classic line I still remember half a century later: "Bei mir gibt es nach Brahms keine Musik mehr!" ("In my opinion, after Brahms there's been no more music (written)!"). BTW, they did finally play at their friend's funeral.

On a slightly different tangent, in a radio segment on "Your Hit Parade" (1934-1959), the historian being interviewed said that there didn't use to be a generational dichotomy of musical taste -- everybody of all ages listened to the same music. It was 50's rock-n-roll with such performers as Elvis who changed that -- they actually had rock-n-roll back in the late 30's (or at least around that time Ella Fitzgerald was singing about it).

Elvis also helped usher in the demise of "Your Hit Parade", which would perform the top selling songs of the week using the studio orchestra and singers, which they could do because the songs were more important than who performed them. But then with the rise of rock and roll as a separate genre, the performance became more important than the song itself. As that link above notes:

quote:
The show faded with the rise of rock and roll when the performance became more important than the song. It is said that big band singer Snooky Lanson's weekly attempts to perform Elvis Presley's "Hound Dog" hit in 1956 hastened the end of the series.

He asks her to sings and she sings, all the while moving her hands in a wax-on wax-off motion.

He stops her and asks what the hand signals are about. She replies that somebody told her to move her hands while she sings.

He says yes, but the hand motions should have something to do with what you're singing.

Jazz hands. And I learned what they are used for. When we were learning Al and Leon's version of the Shim Sham, our teacher showed us a video of Al and Leon performing it (many Lindy routines are reconstructed from such videos). At one point, one of them starts doing jazz hands. Our teacher pointed that out and told us he was using them to direct the audience's attention away from his feet to hide the fact that he was messing up his footwork.

Which reminds me....

In junior high, one of my teachers complained to the class that rock music just repeats the same words over and over again, so I brought up "Norwegian Wood" as a counter-example. He hadn't heard of it.

And as for Beyoncé., et alia, they're all way after my time so I have no idea what they're like nor wish to know. And when you're required to crank out song after song, I have no doubt that originality and creativity has to give way to following a formula. Something that we keep seeing on TV as they strain to fill air time with something (and it's always the same thing, just with a different name and paint job).

For example, one night I came home from duty and my wife had been watching syndicated shows in TV where the station's program manager had decided to make a point. "Charlie's Angels" and "Mod Squad" had played back-to-back and it was the exact same script with the superficial renaming of the characters, etc. So a writer -- eg, Rick Husky in this case -- writes a script and sells it once in 1971 and then he sells modifies it slightly and sells it again in 1976. BTW, the episode list for "Mod Squad" notes that remake as does the imdb page for the Charlie's Angels episode.

As for dancers making the same moves, there's also the little matter of there being a finite number of steps. And they all have names (eg, jazz steps like Boogie Forward, Boogie Back, Fall off the Log, Tackie Annie, Shorty George, Fan Tails, Rusty Dusty, Jump Charleston, 'Round the World Charleston, Gaze Afar, Suzie Q). Those names are how a dancer can come into an audition and not know the audition choreography until the director rattles of some names immediately followed by the count (think back to any such scene, such as in the beginning of "Chorus Line"). There's even a Lindy routine, the Big Apple, which is based on a ring dance where a dance step is called out and everybody does it. So creating a choreography is largely a matter of stringing existing steps together.

A minor example played on Reno 911!:


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Message 1238 of 1249 (883044)
11-02-2020 2:14 PM
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11-02-2020 1:41 PM


Re: Observation.
I wonder what your teacher would have made of this?

23 minutes of classic prog-rock.


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Message 1239 of 1249 (883045)
11-02-2020 2:46 PM
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11-02-2020 2:14 PM


Re: Observation.
I know what I like in your wardrobe

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 1240 of 1249 (883047)
11-02-2020 3:09 PM


It’s funny because it’s true.
Read the whole thread.


  
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Message 1241 of 1249 (883048)
11-02-2020 3:10 PM
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11-02-2020 2:46 PM


Re: Observation.
You? You’re just a lawn mower (I can tell by the way you walk).

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Message 1242 of 1249 (883049)
11-02-2020 3:25 PM
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11-02-2020 2:14 PM


Re: Observation.
Why, do they use jazz hands? I would assume that they're not playing music for the Shim Sham.

I had heard mention of Genesis, but my main access to rock circa 1970 was from an AM station in LA, KRLA (oh do I miss her!) -- the local station, KWIZ, only played 50's stuff. I could only get FM at home, which was not often. So if Genesis didn't make it to KRLA, I never heard them.

BTW, my Lindy teacher is probably now in his late 30's. He grew up on ska. I'm sure that Genesis is old-school "before his time" stuff.


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Message 1243 of 1249 (883064)
11-03-2020 11:10 PM
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11-02-2020 1:41 PM


my funeral plans:
I have stipulated in my will that I be cremated, and that during the cremation the funeral home organist is to play “smoke Gets in your Eyes”. Also, I stipulated that at said funeral no eulogies are to be given since I won’t be able to hear all those wonderful lies. The funeral director is just directed to read my last words: “I had a long and wonderful life with far more luck then I ever deserved and so if anyone spends more than five minutes bereaving my passing, I will return from the dead and hurt you”.

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Message 1244 of 1249 (883109)
11-06-2020 12:46 PM



Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


  
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Message 1245 of 1249 (883163)
11-09-2020 12:56 AM



Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.


  
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