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Message 181 of 184 (724651)
04-19-2014 12:44 AM
Reply to: Message 180 by subbie
04-18-2014 11:43 PM

Re: Same stuff, different day
If what you say is correct, it won't be hard to name "a lot" of conservatives who don't support any of those things. Can you?

There is a whole website full of them: www.darwincentral.org.

As for the rest, I couldn't care less.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.

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Message 182 of 184 (724655)
04-19-2014 1:10 AM
Reply to: Message 181 by Coyote
04-19-2014 12:44 AM

Re: Same stuff, different day
Well, there's 1,000 members there. I wouldn't call 1,000 of anything a lot in a country of over 300,000,000. And that's even assuming all 1,000 of them are from the US, an assumption I think is highly questionable.

If you wanted to revise your statement to some conservatives support science, I'd agree. You need a hell of a lot more than you've shown so far to be able to claim that a lot do.

Moreover, it's rather disappointing for you to claim that you couldn't care less about the rest. I'm an old school Goldwater Republican, what today's conservatives call RINO, or in some cases socialist, and I'm embarrassed by what modern conservatism has become. If I still called myself conservative, I'd be positively mortified by the state of the party. It's people who continue to follow along with neocons and who don't care about what they've done to the party that have all but destroyed it. If intelligent conservatives stood up to the godstapo instead of letting them control the direction of the party, they never would have allowed Sara Palin or Paul Ryan anywhere near the ticket and we might not have had 8 years of Obama.

If you are in fact correct that a lot of conservatives support science, you, my friend, and people like you, are what is wrong with conservatism.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 183 of 184 (724680)
04-19-2014 12:46 PM
Reply to: Message 173 by Coyote
04-18-2014 4:04 PM

Re: Same stuff, different day
Coyote writes:

There are a lot of conservatives who support science, so don't lump us all in with the fundamentalists.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives. -- John Stuart Mill

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Message 184 of 184 (724793)
04-20-2014 10:03 PM
Reply to: Message 181 by Coyote
04-19-2014 12:44 AM

Re: Same stuff, different day
As for the rest, I couldn't care less.

Modern day conservatism in a nutshell.

Organic life is nothing but a genetic mutation, an accident. Your lives are measured in years and decades. You wither and die. We are eternal, the pinnacle of evolution and existence. Before us, you are nothing. Your extinction is inevitable. We are the end of everything.

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