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Message 19 of 65 (716132)
01-12-2014 6:14 PM


Is It Real?

  
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Message 29 of 65 (716421)
01-16-2014 10:22 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by frako
01-15-2014 7:23 AM


Koch Bros to the Rescue
There is no surprise that in this study of Denier Funding the Koch Foundations are prominently listed. The Koch Brothers have been well known to be very active in denying man-caused global warming. Note this study spans 2003-2010.

In 2011 Charles Koch funded a study ($150,000) by Berkeley Earth and its founder, well known anthropomorphic warming skeptic from the science community, Dr. Richard Muller, Physics Professor, UC-Berkeley, with other skeptics of anthropomorphic warming.

As the study progressed Muller wrote:

quote:
When we began our study, we felt that skeptics had raised legitimate issues, and we didn't know what we'd find. Our results turned out to validate those published by these groups. We think that means that those groups had truly been very careful in their work, despite their inability to convince some of those who advocate for man-caused global warming. They managed to avoid bias in their data selection, homogenization and other corrections. Global warming is real but caused mostly by solar variation. Perhaps our results will help cool this portion of the climate debate, though we made no independent assessment of that.

In July 2012 the final Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature (BEST) study knocked the Denier community on its ass.

quote:
Call me a converted skeptic. Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.

Denier scientists with denier funding. Kudos to Berkeley Earth, Muller and staff for being real scientists in following where the data led despite their previous views and the views of their patron.

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Our results show that the average temperature of the earth’s land has risen by two and a half degrees Fahrenheit over the past 250 years, including an increase of one and a half degrees over the most recent 50 years. Moreover, it appears likely that essentially all of this increase results from the human emission of greenhouse gases.

These findings are stronger than those of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the United Nations group that defines the scientific and diplomatic consensus on global warming.


Of course a large portion of the (now smaller) denier cabal continue to insist that anthropomorphic warming is a hoax. Their objections no longer have any scientific foundation but are seen as strictly political/moneyed interests in denial of the demonstrated reality.

Oops. Forgot references.

A Rather Pointed Article

BEST Findings

Richard Muller Bio

Edited by AZPaul3, : add references


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AZPaul3
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Message 30 of 65 (716438)
01-16-2014 1:34 PM


Repent! The end is nigh!
Move along, Citizens.

Nothing to see here.

Edited by AZPaul3, : da usual

Edited by AZPaul3, : proof read then post ... proof read then post ... OK, got it.

Edited by AZPaul3, : again?

Edited by AZPaul3, : last one ... i promise

Edited by AZPaul3, : Ohh, bad. Bad, bad , bad.


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Message 39 of 65 (716500)
01-17-2014 8:43 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Dogmafood
01-17-2014 9:40 AM


Re: Repent! The end is nigh!
I was under the impression that if all of the ice on land melted then the seas would rise by about 200ft or 60m.

Now, you see, this is what happens when you don't check the sources of your sources.

I remember doing this some years ago, probably in EvC, and thought I'd learned. Guess not.

What this means is that my entire screed is a fuck up.

'Scuse me, I have to go do something.

Good catch, Proto. Thanks for the shout down. I will endeavour to do better ... sometime.

Thank you again.


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AZPaul3
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Message 56 of 65 (719766)
02-17-2014 8:56 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Theodoric
02-17-2014 8:27 PM


Snyder: 78 F or 25 C.

South Range, WI: 36F or 2C.

See?! There it is folks. They cancel each other out. There is no global warming.


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Message 58 of 65 (719769)
02-17-2014 9:19 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by Theodoric
02-17-2014 9:08 PM


This week in Phoenix the temp has been in the upper 80s. Well above average for Feb. Next week, however, the temp is expected in the low-mid 70s.

That means that next week we will be wiping out all of that global war from this week!


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