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Faith
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Message 29 of 587 (722045)
03-14-2014 3:44 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Pollux
02-18-2014 4:40 PM


Re: Playing with Snakes
I wonder what Faith's take is on this?

Snake handling is a ridiculous way to validate the text about handling vipers. That one was validated anyway when Paul was bitten by the viper and they thought he was dead, but he only shook it off into the fire. That whole passage at the end of Mark is fulfilled in the acts of the apostles. Whether it was meant to apply beyond that generation is not clear.

As for the passage itself being left out of the earliest manuscripts, otherwise often styled the "oldest and best," that's one of the biggest frauds perpetrated on the Church in all of history. Those "oldest" manuscripts were either forgeries or were tampered with by an early gnostic cult, corrupted by errors and rewritings, and this was recognized by the Church until the Revision committee that came out with the Revision of 1881 decided to enshrine them as the oldest and best. Well, the seminaries bought the fraud and today's scholarship is based on the fraudulent manuscripts. Quite a coup for the enemies of the Bible.

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Message 53 of 587 (728268)
05-26-2014 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Theodoric
05-26-2014 8:22 AM


Re: Faith's new favorite source
I don't think that's Coston's website, that's a site that hosts all kinds of things, and happened to host Coston. It's hardly my "favorite" source, I really know nothing about it. I've run across it before but never checked out who owns it. But thanks for posting that page, it looks like it has some interesting information.

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Message 57 of 587 (728375)
05-27-2014 1:09 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by herebedragons
05-27-2014 12:46 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source
Oh, good for Tracy whoever she is, it's such an honor to be named Loony of the Week at EvC. I'll have to spend more time at her site, she obviously has a strong grasp of truth.

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Faith
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Message 60 of 587 (728422)
05-28-2014 2:54 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Dr Adequate
05-28-2014 12:55 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source
There's a name for that fallacy I'm sure. I respond positively to one list of descriptions that I agree with, and then you find a few you know I wouldn't agree with but make it seem as though I would.

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Message 67 of 587 (728559)
05-30-2014 1:58 PM
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05-28-2014 3:02 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source [this is a lie]
No, it's the fallacy of imputing to me the acceptance of the whole when all I affirmed was the small part actually referred to, having no knowledge of the site of my own. This is very sleazy debate form.

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Faith
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Message 69 of 587 (728561)
05-30-2014 2:06 PM
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05-30-2014 2:02 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source [this is a lie]
I was responding to what was quoted to me, period.

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Message 71 of 587 (728563)
05-30-2014 2:13 PM
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05-30-2014 2:11 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source [this is a lie]
It is obvious to anyone who knows how to read that I was responding only to what was quoted to me. All the rest was dug up later to insinuate the lie that I accept everything at that site.

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Faith
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Message 73 of 587 (728569)
05-30-2014 2:33 PM
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05-30-2014 2:16 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source [this is a lie]
Until I've read it for myself I don't have an opinion about her site as a whole. Meanwhile why can't you all admit that your tactics are sleazy?

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Message 76 of 587 (728573)
05-30-2014 3:10 PM
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05-30-2014 2:38 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source [this is a lie]
The message you responded to, Message 55, contains no quotes. It had a link to the site.

It had the following statement:

As far as being "Faith's new favorite source" it has a lot of the same ideas that she espouses: the Pope is the Anti-Christ, hatred for the Jesuits, the unreliability of any translations besides AKJV, veneration of King James IV, the lie of evolution, the Pope's support of Hitler... you name it.

Except for some tendentious wording (hatred for...veneration of...) this is what I was agreeing with, and I was reacting against HBD's rejection of these ideas by affirming the nose for truth of the site owner -- concerning these topics and these only. This is polemic or at least banter, so the following insinuations that I affirm anything else at her site is sleazy tactics.

ABE: Yes it would be nice if I anticipated all the ways what I say can be used against me but that would mean I'd never write anything here because you'll all invent something if you can't find something to turn against me..

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Faith
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Message 78 of 587 (728578)
05-30-2014 4:03 PM
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05-30-2014 3:59 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source [this is a lie]

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Message 81 of 587 (728587)
05-30-2014 6:10 PM
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05-30-2014 5:14 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source [this is a lie]
Look at the title of this series of posts. It started with this lie and you're all just continuing the lie. I am not backing down on this. What I said was said perfectly innocently within a specific context and this is just typical of EvC to invent an excuse to ridicule a creationist rather than EVER give the benefit of the doubt. What a pack of....

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Faith
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Message 83 of 587 (728591)
05-30-2014 6:42 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Modulous
05-30-2014 6:36 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source
You left out the most important part, which is that I was responding to a very specific description by HBD of what is at the site when I said she had a strong grasp of truth, because it was a characterization of my own beliefs (minus, as I said a few posts back, some tendentious wording that made it a matter of emotion rather than truth). Beyond that, I would never say that just because EvC calls creationists loonies that therefore they have a strong grasp of truth, but just as a matter of fact when EvC says that it usually means I think they do, and that's why it's an honor to be called a Loony at EvC.

But thanks for the effort.

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Message 171 of 587 (747436)
01-15-2015 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 170 by Theodoric
01-15-2015 11:43 AM


Re: Loonies Unlimited
Wonderful. Expecting a calamity is now wanting a calamity. Believe it or not I pray that it will not come about, or at least that God will give us time to try to change things.

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Message 233 of 587 (753270)
03-18-2015 5:10 PM
Reply to: Message 232 by RAZD
03-18-2015 4:58 PM


Re: Zionist Terrorism = Iran with bomb
This IS loony. One thing it gets very wrong is the idea that Israel in the Bible ever succeeded in its war efforts unless God commanded it of them. Whenever they acted on their own or against God's specific word to them, they were defeated. I do think God has been watching over Israel in spite of their not consulting Him, in their defensive wars when attacked by the Arab nations both in 1948 and 1967, but I think they'd be reduced to a cinder themselves if they attempted to wipe out Germany and Iran. I don't think Netanyahu is that ****** though. He knows what he's up against.

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Message 440 of 587 (800840)
03-01-2017 12:50 AM
Reply to: Message 438 by Dr Adequate
01-13-2017 2:02 AM


Re: Loony of the month
Are you talking about me? I'm a birther but I thought it was clear I don't agree with the 9/11 theories.

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