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Author Topic:   Loony Of The Week
herebedragons
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Message 9 of 587 (717789)
02-01-2014 10:58 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by caffeine
01-27-2014 7:01 AM


Re: Encyclopedia of American Loons
I came across a baraminologist who's actually willing to put her money where her mouth is and identify the kinds.

I saw this a while ago and laughed my head off.

From the "scientific process" of Determining the Ark Kinds:

quote:
A cognitum is a group of organisms that are naturally grouped together through human cognitive senses. A cognitum can be above the level of the baramin (for example, mammals), below the level of the baramin (for example, foxes), or at the level of the baramin. This perception-based concept was proposed by Sanders and Wise (2003) as a separate tool in baraminology. Though not originally proposed as a means to identify baramins, the basic concept could prove useful for our purposes here. Use of this method assumes that created kinds have retained their distinctiveness even as they have diversified.

...

From looking at these animals or pictures of them, they are easily grouped together by human cognitive senses. Their division into separate families is based on more subtle details, and most people would not naturally split them into these groupings unless they were familiar with the taxonomy of these animals.


And even more silly is their source of data (at least in some cases)

quote:
In addition to drawing on personal experience and training, published works describing and illustrating various taxa will be used. A valuable resource for this will be the University of Michigan Museum of Zoology’s Animal Diversity Web website (ADW 2008), which contains numerous photographs covering many animal species.

ABE: so this is how the cognitum works:

Truly stellar scholarship

HBD

Edited by herebedragons, : added Hovind image


Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca

"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.

Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.


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herebedragons
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Message 55 of 587 (728373)
05-27-2014 12:46 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Theodoric
05-26-2014 8:22 AM


Re: Faith's new favorite source
Mr Coston may indeed be a loony, but I don't think it is actually his site. I am not sure who manages the site, but it appears to be links to many different resources, one (or more) of which is Mr. Coston. ABE: although Mr. Coston's resource is embedded (not sure if that is the right term - it not just a link) within the site. /ABE

Here is a page where emails are addressed to a Sister Tracy and replies are signed "for Jesus' sake, tracy." So it seems that a Tracy person has put this webpage together.

However, that she has linked Mr. Coston to her nonsense does not bode well for him I would not want anything I wrote to have a link on her site.

As far as being "Faith's new favorite source" it has a lot of the same ideas that she espouses: the Pope is the Anti-Christ, hatred for the Jesuits, the unreliability of any translations besides AKJV, veneration of King James IV, the lie of evolution, the Pope's support of Hitler... you name it.

So, Sister Tracy (whoever you are) - looney of the week.

WOW.

HBD

Edited by herebedragons, : No reason given.


Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca

"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.

Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.


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herebedragons
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Message 56 of 587 (728374)
05-27-2014 12:49 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by ringo
05-27-2014 12:13 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source
But is it "new" information?

Nope, same old information, just a duplication

And is it "beneficial"?

Nope, it causes doctrinal meltdown.

HBD


Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca

"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.

Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.


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herebedragons
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Message 86 of 587 (728597)
05-30-2014 7:46 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Faith
05-30-2014 3:10 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source [this is a lie]
Except for some tendentious wording (hatred for...veneration of...)

You don't hate the Jesuits? You don't think King James lived a blameless life despite all the accusations against him?

and I was reacting against HBD's rejection of these ideas by affirming the nose for truth of the site owner -- concerning these topics and these only.

Except I was wasn't agreeing or disagreeing just commenting on Theodoric's comment that "Jesus-is-Lord" was your new favorite source. Was he justified in saying that? I don't know, but you do have a lot of views in common with the author of that site.

This is polemic or at least banter, so the following insinuations that I affirm anything else at her site is sleazy tactics.

My assessment that Sister Tracy is a loony was based on my review of the website not on any agreement you may have with it. But your reaction confirmed what we complain about continually with you. If a source agrees with you, then it must be reliable. Did you even look at the website before crediting her with "a strong grasp of truth?" Doubt it.

Yea, as Mod said, you were trying to insult me by suggesting that being called a loon at EvC is a badge of honor and only those with a strong grasp of truth are called loons.

So ... benefit of the doubt here Faith ... Is "Jesus-is-Lord" a reliable source or is the author a loon?

HBD


Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca

"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.

Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.


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herebedragons
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From: Michigan
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Message 120 of 587 (733778)
07-21-2014 7:45 AM
Reply to: Message 119 by Dr Adequate
07-21-2014 6:58 AM


Re: David Graham, TurboGenPower
How do you come across this stuff????

I got a kick out of the statement before the quote you cited "Recently some idiots by the name of Kevin and Plank... " (Wait, who is Kevin?)

quote:
If fact, you can take a window air-conditioning unit outside and it will produce cool air on one side and hot air on the other side, both from one temperature source, ambient air.

I am not sure he knows that air conditioners need to be plugged in.

HBD


Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca

"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.

Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.


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herebedragons
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Posts: 1513
From: Michigan
Joined: 11-22-2009


Message 181 of 587 (750579)
02-18-2015 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 180 by Dr Adequate
02-18-2015 11:41 AM


Re: Oh My ...
Try watching her with the sound turned off. Its a lot better

HBD


Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca

"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.

Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.


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herebedragons
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Posts: 1513
From: Michigan
Joined: 11-22-2009


Message 186 of 587 (750621)
02-19-2015 12:39 PM
Reply to: Message 184 by Percy
02-18-2015 3:51 PM


Re: Oh My ...
Well, I think the girl that did the video is pretty hot, so I did what any creepy old guy would do... I stalked her on the internet.

It seems the source is Christians against Dinosaurs where she seems to be the major contributor. There are several videos on their Youtube channel. She also has an Admirer page.

Its hard to believe this is serious. She does a couple of the videos while driving in her car. They are just weird.

I am also surprised at how many hits you get when you google "dinosaurs not real." - just about as surprised as when I found out people still believed in a geocentric universe

Shouldn't she let Ken Ham know that the dinosaurs displayed in his museum... are just made up?

I'm pretty sure Ham has Biblical proof that dinosaurs existed... and co-existed with humans.

HBD


Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca

"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.

Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.


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herebedragons
Member (Idle past 121 days)
Posts: 1513
From: Michigan
Joined: 11-22-2009


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Message 530 of 587 (831440)
04-17-2018 6:43 PM
Reply to: Message 529 by Rrhain
04-17-2018 6:30 PM


Re: It's all them saved daylight hours....
Drought caused by daylight savings time... totally believable.

Anthropogenic climate change... what a load of nonsense that is!

HBD


Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca

"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.

Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.


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