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RAZD
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Message 61 of 114 (718368)
02-06-2014 1:13 PM
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Re: More "savage"
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Message 62 of 114 (718437)
02-06-2014 4:39 PM
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02-06-2014 8:42 AM


Re: More "savage"
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Message 63 of 114 (718439)
02-06-2014 4:39 PM
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02-06-2014 1:13 PM


Re: More "savage"
Thanks razd
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Dr Adequate
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Message 64 of 114 (718444)
02-06-2014 4:53 PM
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02-06-2014 4:39 PM


Re: More "savage"
HAvent you decided that all creationists are spoofs and jokes egardless go what they say. Are these pictures a joke as evidence, please name the items and their location and show how they are deemed to be transitional species, you thought this was so easy huh.
The moderators have asked us to stay on topic; if you wish to display your grotesque ignorance of the fossil record you'll have to do it on another thread.

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Message 65 of 114 (718449)
02-06-2014 5:28 PM
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02-06-2014 4:53 PM


Re: More "savage"
They may have asked you to stay on topic, how about you do that?

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RAZD
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Message 66 of 114 (718450)
02-06-2014 5:34 PM
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02-05-2014 8:05 PM


Darwin was Victorian...
Most evolutionists seem to have serious issues with the character of God, ...
A statement that is demonstrably false, not only are there many scientists around the world that are religious (with a number of different religions represented) but many in the USA are Christians. See Radiometric Dating, A Christian Perspective, Dr. Roger C. Wiens .
Further evidence is found with the clergy letter project
Now if you have issues with these people not believing the "correct" religion in the "correct" manner ... and only your version appears to have trouble with science in general and evolution in particular ... then I suggest the problem is in you, not the religious scientists.
Science includes people of all faiths and beliefs, from atheists to zoroastrians ...
... why not the character of a man who belived half of us to be savages worthy of extinction?
It doesn't matter. He was a man of his times and was influenced by his cultural ties, but who and what he was is irrelevant to science.
Science does not depend on people's beliefs and opinions or their character -- science depends on the scientific method -- observation -- hypothesis -- prediction -- testing -- review and repeat ... a continually ongoing process.

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Message 67 of 114 (718451)
02-06-2014 5:40 PM
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02-05-2014 6:46 PM


Darwin predicted that around about now "At some future period, not very distant, as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly (almost certainly, a favourite evolutionist interpretation of a proven fact) exterminate and replace throughout the world, the savage races"
Now that we know about genetics and genotypes evolutionists today would more likely predict that all the different varieties of humans would become increasingly blended over time because of the global access to all corners of the earth.
Let's assume that Darwin's prediction is now falsified ... does that mean that his theory of the origin of species by means of natural selection is falsified?
No, because we have seen this validated, not just in the evolution visible in virtually every living species from generation to generation, but speciation has been observed as well. These observances are facts that validate the theory.

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Message 68 of 114 (718452)
02-06-2014 5:42 PM
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02-05-2014 8:21 PM


Hitler allegedly was a big fan of Darwin's clearly racist views in that he was able to "scientifically supported" exterminate the "sub human" Jew in the aid of furthering evolution with the full support of Darwin's "science".
Irrelevant.
Many dictators have been known to "borrow" things they believe supports their views, that doesn't mean that the science of evolution predicts or produces dictators.

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Message 69 of 114 (718454)
02-06-2014 5:48 PM
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02-05-2014 11:40 PM


Re: More "savage"
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Message 70 of 114 (718456)
02-06-2014 5:55 PM
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02-06-2014 5:48 PM


Re: More "savage"
You know what I mean College.

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Message 71 of 114 (718457)
02-06-2014 5:58 PM
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02-06-2014 5:42 PM


I'm afraid your avatar is inducing grand mal epileptic seizures, any chance you can change it as I cant take a buck toothed cartoon character seriously?

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Message 72 of 114 (718458)
02-06-2014 6:04 PM
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02-06-2014 5:34 PM


Re: Darwin was Victorian...
Your Pied Piper The Princess of Dorkness Dick Dorkins has a few serious emotional resentments againts bible God, perhaps he is over that now, I don't know, the humanist manifesto rag "The God Delusion" was a clear demonstration of Evolutionist issues with the character of God
Last time I checked the Dorkins website T-shirts with this printed on it had SOLD OUT IN ALL SIZES, Id say that's evidence showing you to be in denial.
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.
Umm yeah, take some medication dickey!

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Message 73 of 114 (718459)
02-06-2014 6:09 PM
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02-06-2014 5:40 PM


You cant "falsify" a theory it isn't required. Natural selection is a fact.
Cats evolving into to dogs is a fairy tale as is Darwins fantasy of descending from a baboon or a courageous little Monkey. LOL. As is whales having legs walking the earth then deciding they liked the sea better and going back. LOL LOL.
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Message 74 of 114 (718463)
02-06-2014 6:44 PM
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02-06-2014 6:09 PM


You cant "falsify" a theory it isn't required. Natural selection is a fact.
Cats evolving into to dogs is a fairy tale as is Darwins fantasy of descending from a baboon or a courageous little Monkey. LOL. As is whales having legs walking the earth then deciding they liked the sea better and going back. LOL LOL.
LOL rOFL LMAO whats funny is your lack of understanding on the subject. A theory hasto be falsifiable else its not science. Falsefiable like evolution finding fossils of critters where one shouldent would blow a serious hole in evolution, finding that among different animals that look related dna shows no sighn of it being of common descent would seriously blow evolution out of the water. A new species unrelated to any pooping in to existence during the super bowl would blow a serious hole in evolution......
What would falsify creationism in your opinion. Since in every sane educated persons opinion it has been falsified way way beyond reasonable doubt.
What would falsify god? what would i have to find

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

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02-06-2014 6:45 PM
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Re: More "savage"
They may have asked you to stay on topic, how about you do that?
I think when AdminModulous said "everybody" he was including you. But perhaps your unique powers of reasoning give you a different take on this.

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