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Author Topic:   SCIENCE: -- "observational science" vs "historical science" vs ... science.
arachnophilia
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Message 69 of 614 (718746)
02-08-2014 6:12 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by RAZD
02-08-2014 4:00 PM


Re: forensic science into the deep past
RAZD writes:

Do we need to repeat the past to test hypothesis regarding the past? No, we just need predictions that can be tested ...

there was a point that wasn't articulated well in the debate.

ken ham kept saying they believed in the uniformity of natural laws and their ability make predictions for the future based on present observational evidence. and then would say in other parts of the debate that you can't know the past, as if that same uniformity of natural laws no longer applied. it's interesting that uniformity only applies in one direction.


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arachnophilia
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Message 72 of 614 (718768)
02-08-2014 7:25 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Faith
02-08-2014 6:57 PM


Re: forensic science into the deep past
Faith writes:

The creationist objection to uniformitarianism does not imply an objection to natural laws, but only to EVENTS,

events that break the natural laws? that is to say, miracles, acts of god, etc?

as it interprets the fossils and strata as having been built up over time as we experience it today rather than in a singular catastrophic event. No laws were different.

i'm a little confused. in the other thread, you were arguing that the strata were evidence for the flood. now they're not?


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