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xongsmith
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Message 104 of 397 (720849)
02-27-2014 10:14 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by New Cat's Eye
02-27-2014 5:05 PM


Re: Let's limit this discussion to the specifics
Faith asks:
Haven't you seen all the shit happening because of Yelp reviews?
WTF are "Yelp" reviews???

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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xongsmith
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Message 105 of 397 (720850)
02-27-2014 10:28 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by NoNukes
02-27-2014 6:07 PM


Re: Such a groundswell of opinion against freedom of religion
NoNukes notes that:
Thoughts of losing out on the Super bowl danced before their eyes.
^ This.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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xongsmith
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Message 107 of 397 (720853)
02-27-2014 10:46 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by xongsmith
02-27-2014 10:28 PM


Re: Such a groundswell of opinion against freedom of religion
Here is Jon Stewart's take:
Arizona, I Don't Know What You Thought Would Happen When You Tried To Legalize Hate. Bon Appetit. - Upworthy
Basically - "it's morally repugnant!" to accept this bill.

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xongsmith
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Message 108 of 397 (720854)
02-27-2014 10:48 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by dwise1
02-27-2014 10:41 PM


Re: Let's limit this discussion to the specifics
I don't do "apps". Maybe I will, but not now.
Thanks for the 411.

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Message 110 of 397 (720856)
02-27-2014 10:59 PM


Found this:
Rev. Emily C. Heath
Clergy, United Church of Christ
It seems like this election season "religious liberty" is a hot topic. Rumors of its demise are all around, as are politicians who want to make sure that you know they will never do anything to intrude upon it.
I'm a religious person with a lifelong passion for civil rights, so this is of great interest to me. So much so, that I believe we all need to determine whether our religious liberties are indeed at risk. So, as a public service, I've come up with this little quiz. I call it "How to Determine if Your Religious Liberty Is Being Threatened in Just 10 Quick Questions." Just pick "A" or "B" for each question.
1. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) I am not allowed to go to a religious service of my own choosing.
B) Others are allowed to go to religious services of their own choosing.
2. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) I am not allowed to marry the person I love legally, even though my religious community blesses my marriage.
B) Some states refuse to enforce my own particular religious beliefs on marriage on those two guys in line down at the courthouse.
3. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) I am being forced to use birth control.
B) I am unable to force others to not use birth control.
4. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) I am not allowed to pray privately.
B) I am not allowed to force others to pray the prayers of my faith publicly.
5. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) Being a member of my faith means that I can be bullied without legal recourse.
B) I am no longer allowed to use my faith to bully gay kids with impunity.
6. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) I am not allowed to purchase, read or possess religious books or material.
B) Others are allowed to have access books, movies and websites that I do not like.
7. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) My religious group is not allowed equal protection under the establishment clause.
B) My religious group is not allowed to use public funds, buildings and resources as we would like, for whatever purposes we might like.
8. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) Another religious group has been declared the official faith of my country.
B) My own religious group is not given status as the official faith of my country.
9. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) My religious community is not allowed to build a house of worship in my community.
B) A religious community I do not like wants to build a house of worship in my community.
10. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) I am not allowed to teach my children the creation stories of our faith at home.
B) Public school science classes are teaching science.
Scoring key:
If you answered "A" to any question, then perhaps your religious liberty is indeed at stake. You and your faith group have every right to now advocate for equal protection under the law. But just remember this one little, constitutional, concept: this means you can fight for your equality -- not your superiority.
If you answered "B" to any question, then not only is your religious liberty not at stake, but there is a strong chance that you are oppressing the religious liberties of others. This is the point where I would invite you to refer back to the tenets of your faith, especially the ones about your neighbors.
In closing, no matter what soundbites you hear this election year, remember this: Religious liberty is never secured by a campaign of religious superiority. The only way to ensure your own religious liberty remains strong is by advocating for the religious liberty of all, including those with whom you may passionately disagree. Because they deserve the same rights as you. Nothing more. Nothing less.
See How to Determine If Your Religious Liberty Is Being Threatened in Just 10 Quick Questions | HuffPost Religion

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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Message 391 of 397 (721517)
03-08-2014 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 378 by DevilsAdvocate
03-08-2014 1:29 AM


Re: The Meaning of Jesus' Death
DA writes:
Of course Adam died physically as well as spiritually. Or is Adam the 2000 year old man (that's a joke).
I was born ten thousand years ago
And there's nothing in this world that I don't know
I saw Peter, Paul, and Moses playing ring around the roses
And I'll lick the guy that say it isn't so
I saw Satan when he looked the garden o'er
I saw Eve and Adam driven from the door
And behind the bushes peepin', saw the apple they were eatin'
And I swear 'cause I'm the guy that ate the core
I saw Jonah when he was within the whale
And thought he'd never live to tell the tale
But old Jonah'd eaten garlic, and he gave the whale the colic
So he coughed him up and let him out of jail
I saw Israel in the battle of the Nile
The arrows were flying thick and fast and wild
I saw David with his sling pop Goliath on the wing
I was doing forty seconds to the mile
I saw Sampson when he laid the village cold
Saw Daniel tame the lions in their hold
I helped build the Tower of Babel up as high as they were able
And there's many other things I haven't told
I taught Soloman his little A-B-C's
I helped Brigham Young to make limberger cheese
And while sailing down the bay with Methusala one day
I saved his flowing whiskers from the breeze
Queen Elizabeth, she fell in love with me
We were married in Milwaukee secretly
But I schemed around and shook her, then she went with General Hooker
To shoot mosquitoes down in Tenessee
I remember when the country had a king
I saw Cleopatra pawn her wedding ring
And I saw th flags a'flyin' when George Washington stopped lyin'
On the night when Patty first begin to sing
So, you see I am an educated man
To keep my brains in my head I plan
Cause I been on earth so long, that I use to sing a song
While Abraham and Isaac played the band
I was born ten thousand years ago
And there's nothing in this world that I don't know
I saw Peter, Paul and Moses playing ring-around-the-roses
And I can lick the guy that says it isn't so
- from somewhere
DA also asks:
why would there be a tree of life in the Garden of Eden if Adam could live forever from the get go?
Maybe it should be called the Tree of Death!
Why indeed, as Captain Kirk asked, . . . why would God need a starship?

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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