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frako
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Message 114 of 397 (720880)
02-28-2014 6:24 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by Faith
02-28-2014 1:42 AM


Re: Let's limit this discussion to the specifics
How do you know nobody's actually planning to kill me?
Good point just because your paranoid that does not mean they are not out to get you.
I think you should star building a bunker in your basement, and start stockpiling guns and ammo.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

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frako
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Message 117 of 397 (720885)
02-28-2014 7:17 AM
Reply to: Message 112 by Faith
02-28-2014 1:41 AM


Interesting of course that religious liberty to this writer is only about PRIVATE practices, but if religious liberty is also about PUBLIC practices, which it always was in America until rather recently, then religious liberty may very well be at risk. If religious liberty includes the right to refuse service to anyone where your Bible-based conscience is violated then your religious liberty is very probably at risk. But as long as you focus on inessentials you can prove anything.
Well in that case you think it would be perfectly all right to not give medical attention to a dying black person because my religion says that blacks are children of Cain cursed by god with a recognisable mark. black skin. Or if i where black the same argument for a white or Chinese person. Or if i have to give him medical attention how fare do my obligations go do i have to sell him stuff if he pays for it as any person where is the line ?

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

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frako
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Message 294 of 397 (721356)
03-06-2014 6:00 PM
Reply to: Message 285 by Faith
03-06-2014 4:32 PM


Re: There are Christians who disagree with Faith
unnatural sexual inclination.
Um how can it be unnatural if 10% of all mammal species are homosexual.
Technically the only unnatural relationship is a monogamous relationship without cheating.
Note the difference social monogamy and sexual monogamy.
Edited by frako, : No reason given.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

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frako
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Message 384 of 397 (721504)
03-08-2014 6:06 AM
Reply to: Message 383 by Faith
03-08-2014 5:56 AM


Re: The Meaning of Jesus' Death
Only because of the Fall, but it was not a part of the original Creation.
Just a silly question for you but what would have happened if say no one ate the apple. Apart from snakes walking around how long till the planet would be to full of people to move.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

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frako
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Message 386 of 397 (721506)
03-08-2014 6:45 AM
Reply to: Message 385 by Faith
03-08-2014 6:17 AM


Re: The Meaning of Jesus' Death
No idea. But the entire universe would have been different so perhaps all the planets were habitable. Who knows, I don't.
haha yea sure, lets do some math to give us a picture of what would be going on.
say every 10 years a couple has a child, since you dont get old and god has commanded you to procreate seem reasnoble.
so you got 2 adam and eve
10 years later 3
20 years 4
30 years 6
40 years 9
50 years 13
60 years 20
70 years 30
80 years 45
90 years 67
100 years 100
110 years 150
120 . 225
130 337
140 505
150 757
840 years is the best my spreadsheet can do its 825 286 036 876 006
you can tiker as much as you want with the formula it will always go berserk real fast because no one is dying and everyone can breed.
So either god wanted us to eat the apple to make his world work or he planned to castrate us at some point in life.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

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frako
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Message 393 of 397 (721521)
03-08-2014 2:02 PM
Reply to: Message 387 by Faith
03-08-2014 7:34 AM


Re: The Meaning of Jesus' Death
We don't need to assume there was no Fall to assume such high numbers you know. They lived even after the Fall to be hundreds of years old so they *could* have had many more than you are accounting for, but what scant evidence there is suggests nobody was procreating at the rate you have in mind, although I agree it certainly seems possible. In Genesis 5, the list of patriarchs, the first son is said to have been conceived when the father is around a hundred years old or older and then other sons and daughters are mentioned but not specified. If Genesis 10 gives the whole picture, Noah only had three sons although he lived to be 950. His descendants, listed by sons only, don't add up to huge numbers, maybe half a dozen to a father, sometimes only two. It's possible of course that many were not reported, only the major heirs in a line, and certainly daughters must have been born but weren't named. But specific names of the men are given, whose genealogies are followed down the centuries, which suggests that the numbers weren't anywhere near what you are guessing, for whatever reason, even for those generations that lived hundreds of years.
What you don't understand that whatever way you put it the population growth would be exponential. even if every couple had a child every 100 years it would just take 8400 years for the number of people to exceed the capabilities of my spreadsheet.
the only solution would be for god to castrate everyone when the population number reaches a cretin point. Or god foresaw this and made sure we ate the apple so people would die off.
p.s.
to the admin im going from the title
Showing America how to avoid thinking since 1912
maths is basic thinking a world where no one dies and everyone can breed would logically produce an exponential growth of the population, those who are thinking that being immortal on earth if we dint eat the apple are not thinking because it would not take long for the earth to be filled back to back with humans.
Edited by frako, : No reason given.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

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